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Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts Tue, 31 May 2005 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
My use of the word 'dumb' was point directly at that ONE comment of yours. Not at your WHOLE view (I probably didn't make that clear).
It was basically saying that you can't call the first step a 'bandaid' It logically doesn't make sense, hence it was a 'dumb' comment.

That aside I don't agree with what you are saying.

30 years ago the mentality on Mine Sites was that safety glasses, helmets, fireproof clothes, procedures were all a load of wank.
You look at it today, and you'll almost NEVER see someone walking around without the correct protection gear.
Incidents are getting less and less. And the incidents that are happening are getting less and less severe.

This is purely because the culture has changed. People now see safety as being important. And doing things safely is now a high priority.

This didn't happen over night. It took years to get people to change, and some people still haven't.

But why has it changed? Because they are TRAINING people to do the job correctly before they get used to doing it incorrectly.
And then after that they are watched by Supervisors to make sure they continue to do it correctly, and are notified whenever they aren't.
On top of this MORE courses are compulsory every few years to keep your knowledge and skills up to date.

The SAME needs to happen with cars.
We need to train NEW drivers PROPERLY.
None of this 20min test I did when I got my license.
And we need to keep having courses every few years to STOP people from developing bad habits.
If you look at how much driving is required to get your license now you'll see that its beginning to happen.

Yes, I know this is no going to turn Australia into a Utopia by the end of the year, but its a start.
You start with the cause, the person behind the wheel.
You CANNOT blame the tool. You don't like the tool, you don't use it.

If someone isn't comfortable driving a 4wd, then they by themselves should decide that they wont drive it until they are comfortable doing so.
This is the kind of mentality we need everyone to have.

By training someone properly they will do the right thing themselves. But the training we currently have sucks ass.
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