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TOY77 Forums Junkie Location: Newcastle Registered: May 2002	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts Tue, 31 May 2005 08:38 Hi there, well what a debate..... some well versed opinions here both ways.... Speaking from someone that has driven heavy vehicles (only up to 24 tonne) has a 12 sec car and a 4x4, and aslo has had alot of experience with younger drivers and attitude( being a former high school teacher) these are my opinions. i definately think the whole ban the 4x4 thing is a band aid solution, and in many ways no different to the ban fast car arguements, neither of which i agree with. a 4x4 patrol, long wheelbase weighs 2050kg, travelings at 100km/h it has a momentum of 57 000nm/s the same momentum as the afore mentioned gt falcon travelling at 111km/h. as you can see there is not much difference, yes there are limitation on vehicle handling and braking. but how many celicas are out there with 1g's and no brakes mods or similar. banning people from vehicles will not help, aspeople can and will play, be silly have accident etc in whatever they are allowed to drive. one of the worst things that comes from these kind of things is the division between different groups of motor enthusiests. the 4x4 forums are sayin the opposite to you guys.... ban fast cars not necessary etc... If all enthusiests were able to stand together then we would have a voice, and voting power to actually have a say rather than just winge after the decision is made. all the winging between v8's suck, that is rice, 4x4's, performance cars.... fords v's holden stc.... all it does is divide us, and let people who are not involved make the decisions that affect us. a more resonable way of removing bad drivers etc.... would be to randomly, with registration renewal, to require a driving test in that vehicle, not in the same vein as a p's test, but a safe driving test, ability to drive the vehicle that is registered in your name. so i could be called in to prove i can safely drive either my celica or my 4x4. i think we all know people who have fluked their licencse etc. keep up the discussion... Cheers Stew [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	jackel	Mon, 30 May 2005 10:57
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Rolla Boy	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:06
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:07
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Ribfeast	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:06
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	riceburna73	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:11
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	paulw85	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:13
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	brodiepearce	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:13
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	4agte	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:22
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	bantech	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:23
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	1G-GTE KE70	Mon, 30 May 2005 12:34
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	shovelnose	Mon, 30 May 2005 12:59
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	jackel	Mon, 30 May 2005 13:18
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	paulw85	Mon, 30 May 2005 13:21
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ROLLA GTi	Mon, 30 May 2005 13:55
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Mookie	Tue, 31 May 2005 00:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	paulw85	Tue, 31 May 2005 00:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Caledwvech	Tue, 31 May 2005 02:38
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ra_28	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:08
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	stradlater	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	RobST162	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:51
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:14
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	toof	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:45
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	monkeymajik	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:48
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:49
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ra_28	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:57
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:52
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	monkeymajik	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:19
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	toof	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:00
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	stradlater	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:02
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:05
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ra_28	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	peeack	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:32
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:40
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	RobST162	Tue, 31 May 2005 06:06
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Shraka	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:43
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Shraka	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:46
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Skip	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:53
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Caledwvech	Tue, 31 May 2005 06:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Tue, 31 May 2005 06:42
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	RobST162	Tue, 31 May 2005 06:47
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:02
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Ribfeast	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:10
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:23
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	skellator	Tue, 31 May 2005 08:21
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	bantech	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:51
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:14
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Ribfeast	Tue, 31 May 2005 11:56
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 13:48
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 08:17
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	TOY77	Tue, 31 May 2005 08:38
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 08:44
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	thu187	Tue, 31 May 2005 14:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Hi-Ace	Tue, 31 May 2005 21:06
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Tue, 31 May 2005 21:41
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	TOY77	Wed, 01 June 2005 09:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	dimmy77_03	Wed, 01 June 2005 14:27
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Wed, 01 June 2005 22:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Allan	Thu, 02 June 2005 02:45
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ndgcpr	Thu, 02 June 2005 03:00
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	roids70	Thu, 02 June 2005 04:46

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