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Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts Tue, 31 May 2005 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Hi,

You've made some good points, but I am not convinced that putting people on training courses will alone fix the problem.

Training miners in their work is a lot different to training (and maintaining that expertise) to the millions of people who drive vehicles. Also, it will become an extremely expensive item to continue with constant and high-level testing/training for this many people. Insurance, rego and other vehiclular related costs won't go down - they never do despite advances in vehicle safety. Furthermore, this testing regime will force a lot of people to rely on other methods of transport (until they can pass their tests), which means less cars on the road (therefore an impact to our vehicle industry and a reduction of employment for those in related industries), the insurance will increase to make up for the lack of cars/drivers on the road. Inadequate public or alternative transport will force more illegal drivers on the road 'cos they need their license to get to work or to do their job.

There is nothing you have said to convince me that the vast majority of large 4WD vehicles are necessary in a city/urban environment. Their point of impact usually bypasses the built-in intrusion system and crumple zones of a normal road vehicle and this is the biggest issue to me, let alone the injuries these vahicles cause to pedastrians. As I've previously mentioned, and so have a few others, people will still do stupid things and all the training in the world isn't going to remedy this issue. I don't doubt some form of training has its merits and advantages and it gets my support, but the removal of unnecessary large 4WD in the cities and suburbs is also a part of the solution.

This is a great discussion, however, I think the best we can achieve in this debate is to agree to disagree. I doubt that either one of us will persuade the other to their line of reasoning.

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