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Re: Price for 3sge 1/2 cut? Fri, 03 June 2005 13:30 Go to previous message
For a Celica it would definetly be easier to use a motor from another generation of Celica. Although the block is the same in the MR2, a lot of the brackets and accessories are in different spots which aren't Celica friendly. If you're thinking of doing a RWD conversion into your 'rona then you may be able to pull it off by swapping bits from the old 2S?

Here's what I figured out when researching my swap:

3S-GE Gen I
ST162 (ADM + JDM)

3S-GE Gen II
ST182 GTR (JDM)
ST183 Conv. (JDM)
SW20 MR2 (1990 - 1994) (JDM + ADM)

3S-GE Gen III
ST202 SS-II & SS-III (1994 -1997) (JDM)
SW20 MR2 (1994 - 1999) (JDM + ADM)
S?190 Caldina TZ-G AWD (1995 - ?) (JDM)

I'm a little grey on anything newer than Gen III...

3S-GE Gen VI
ST202 SS-II & SS-III (1997 +)
SW20 MR2 GT? (1997 + ?)

3S-GE Gen V
Lexus RS200 (RWD only)

Prices vary from place to place depending on what they include in the package. A lot of places will quote you for just the engine over the phone unless you specifically ask if it includes loom and computer. Anything other than a Gen I will require you to buy a loom and ECU if buying separately from the half cut.

An alternative to a half cut you might come across is an 'engine kit'. These kits are esentially everything you need from the halfcut sans the actual half cut - very convenient!

As for prices, call around and see what you can find. Try the forum sponsors as they're most likely pretty switched on when it comes to Toyotas. A lot of importers I rang didn't know what a 3SGE Gen III or ST202 was Rolling Eyes. Also try specialist Toyota importers such as Toyospares etc. Depending on who you call,

Gen I - $1000ish
Gen II - $750ish
Gen III - $1300ish

Add roughly $250 for loom and ECU. In regards to a swap into a Celica, gearboxes vary depending on which one you choose, but keep in mind that a Gen I FWD gearbox is pretty much useless besides on the back of another Gen I - all the newer models use a slightly larger flywheel and require different starter motor placement.

Hope this sheds some light on the situation. Very Happy Let us know if anything I've said is incorrect.

EDIT: Noticed you don't own a sillycar and had to change bits Razz

[Updated on: Fri, 03 June 2005 13:38]

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