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Re: Is 5 valve better than 4 valve?
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Mon, 06 June 2005 02:01

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170bhp wrote on Fri, 27 May 2005 22:54 | I have got my hands on an SAE technical paper
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ahh, it`s good to see some people have learned how to look up journal articles....
it`s bad to see them taking them as gospel without a decent grain of salt.
the point of journal articles, SAE or otherwise, is to publish peoples opinions and findings.. but that does not mean that the information is actually true (take the tobacco studies as a good example of when things go wrong)
and before you ask, yes i have published articles ... in Micron, Materials at High Temperatures, and also Acta Materiala...
as Bill mentioned, this is just one paper of many, and if you go back far enough, there are some pretty crappy designs touted as "best thing since sliced bread"
170bhp, give it up or back it up..one paper doesn`t mean shit to a scientist.. remember, you ALSO DIDN`T do this work, so you have no idea if their experimental data is correct (one of my papers basically showed that the last 20 years of experiments in a certain subject were performed incorrectly )
Cya, Stewart
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