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Location: Brisbane / Gold Coast
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Re: Is 5 valve better than 4 valve?
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Mon, 06 June 2005 08:14

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170bhp wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 16:54 | geez are you guys on yours knees all sucking off Bill or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
Bill, I loved the 'so what' reply if I was a doctor I would diagnose you with a terminal case of handus cokilitus!!!
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*sigh*
My third answer on the second page is a suitable retort to that childishness.
170bhp wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 17:21 | oldcorollas....what about all the information I have been TRYING to relate back to our dynoing(I have mentioned many times my findings on our engine dyno)....R U GUYS F*&KING IGNORING THAT!!! It seems to me unless it something that doesn't go with what Bill says, you get a slamming!!!! Other people are trying to get into the debate stating FACT about 20v's in other forms of racing and when Bill says' oh no they're not' every one bandies around him like he's the king, If I was rich and could PAY to get everything done I'd probably be the king too 
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No-one is ignoring it. The problem is that you are ignoring everyone else's results.
I also am willing to admit when I'm wrong and know that I can learn something from pretty much everyone.
170bhp wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 17:21 | FUK THIS, BILL YOU CAN HAVE ALL YOUR SHEEP FOLLOWERS!!!!
If Bill was doing all his own development and fabrication and dynoing I'd say yeah no problems but hey who can afford to PAY everyone to do it!!!Bill don't say you are cos I know people who know you!!
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FFS I've been through this too many times with Idoit Boy.
1. HOW am I supposed to do all the work that my eight or so cars require if I'm overseas for something like 90% of the time?
2. I have never claimed that I do all the work myself. I actually pointed that out in this thread. To be more specific my Father does a lot of the work, and I also employ Adrian Brooke (ex-F1 engineer) part time. When I am home I do what I can.
3. I have also pointed out that I'm building a 20v myself. Have you also missed that?
4. I DO give real world results, just like you do. They come in two parts - The generic 4v Vs 5v and that is answered by F1 trying and rejecting them. You can try to spin that any way you like but at the end of the day they just don't make the power. B. Where examples of 20v's doing well are given, I can give examples of 16v's also doing well.
It's called debating and discussing the facts intelligently.
I see precious little of that from you.
5. You seem to have ignored the 20 odd years I have been in motorsport. And I don't mean just hanging around, I have been on Pole Postition for my classes National Championships about 30% of the time I compete in them. The car has broken down twice in said championships, though when it's finished I have never finshed lower than 3rd place.
The current car is now no longer anywhere near fast enough, hence the Mallock Mk31 that's about 80% done. I am confident that it will break all the lap records for the class where ever I drive it.
I could go on and on, but it's wasted breath and you're doing such a good job of making an arse of yourself anyway.
[Updated on: Mon, 06 June 2005 08:24]
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takai | Mon, 06 June 2005 09:06 |
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4agte | Mon, 06 June 2005 09:11 |
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Bill Sherwood | Tue, 07 June 2005 02:54 |
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oldcorollas | Fri, 10 June 2005 01:50 |
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oldcorollas | Fri, 10 June 2005 04:57 |
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