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thechuckster Forums Junkie Location: Brisbane Registered: February 2003	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf? Mon, 06 June 2005 13:15 Quote: and why is this thread poo? cause people like you who have no experence with the subject step giving there 2c? no josh, i think i do have some experience on the topic: -my original turbo setup was a T04 with an external wastegate. I did the piping for the w/gate exit to the dump pipe and the actual dump pipe. -my new setup (ex RB20 T25) has an integral wastegate but i had the zorst builder pipe the w/gate exit separately and that joins the dump pipe some 8" from the turbo. So i think it's fair to say that i have personal experience with two of the kinds of wategate plumbing setups in discussion here. I've also been reading, researching and learning about this crap since i first decided to turbo-charge my Celica in '99. - i think it's extremely dangerous to have zorst gases exiting a piping system near the front of the cas while the engine is at near full power as you will probably have: red-hot particulates at high velocity; extreme gas tempretures; post-combustion flames (considering that the engine will be running very rich); engine revs likely to lead to rapid failure and subsequent rapid dumping of oil or other flamable engine fluids. Dumping gases below the engine or to underneath the car (where most oil leaks make their way) is just plain stupid. -if you look at full-house drag cars with screamers (which often out the side of the car) you'll notice that they usually run the same distance as the main pipe. Placement of the turbo usually makes both a short run, but i'm guessing that safety is a major factor in exit placement. This thread is poo because people are unable to differentiate between two simple things - the exit piping on an external wastegate and a screamer pipe. Particularly worrying when the only difference is that one joins the dump pipe and the other doesn't. The only useful thing being talked about in the thread is to do with minimising gasflow turbulence in dump pipes through proper placement of a wastegate entry piping. raise you 2c and call your bluff. [Report message to a moderator]

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	Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	opasan	Thu, 02 June 2005 11:35
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	styler	Thu, 02 June 2005 11:42
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	opasan	Thu, 02 June 2005 11:48
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Thu, 02 June 2005 12:37
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	ae95	Thu, 02 June 2005 11:48
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	ae95	Thu, 02 June 2005 11:49
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	tyottsoarer	Thu, 02 June 2005 12:32
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	tyottsoarer	Thu, 02 June 2005 12:47
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	gabe	Thu, 02 June 2005 12:58
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	tyottsoarer	Thu, 02 June 2005 13:03
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Thu, 02 June 2005 13:07
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Norbie	Thu, 02 June 2005 13:11
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Thu, 02 June 2005 13:13
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	lumpy	Fri, 03 June 2005 06:29
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	mrshin	Thu, 02 June 2005 15:32
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Danners	Thu, 02 June 2005 22:47
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	indian	Thu, 02 June 2005 22:59
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Yian	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:06
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	indian	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:09
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Yian	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:13
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	draven	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:58
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	indian	Fri, 03 June 2005 03:14
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	opasan	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:11
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	peeack	Fri, 03 June 2005 02:14
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	thechuckster	Mon, 06 June 2005 11:16
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:11
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	ra_28	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:20
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Skip	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:37
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Yian	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:56
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	justcallmefrank	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:59
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Skip	Thu, 02 June 2005 23:59
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	RobertoX	Fri, 03 June 2005 00:20
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Skip	Fri, 03 June 2005 01:40
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Norbie	Fri, 03 June 2005 03:02
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Chris Davey	Fri, 03 June 2005 05:52
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	styler	Fri, 03 June 2005 03:10
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Fri, 03 June 2005 06:36
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Yian	Fri, 03 June 2005 06:38
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Fri, 03 June 2005 07:23
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Skip	Fri, 03 June 2005 08:30
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Fri, 03 June 2005 08:36
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Cool1	Fri, 03 June 2005 08:44
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Fri, 03 June 2005 08:45
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Cool1	Fri, 03 June 2005 08:47
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Fri, 03 June 2005 08:50
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	opasan	Sat, 04 June 2005 00:15
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Skip	Sat, 04 June 2005 03:12
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Yian	Sat, 04 June 2005 04:24
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	opasan	Sat, 04 June 2005 23:25
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	cri_ag	Sun, 05 June 2005 11:36
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	cri_ag	Sun, 05 June 2005 11:50
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Norbie	Sun, 05 June 2005 11:55
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	ae95	Sun, 05 June 2005 20:07
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Sun, 05 June 2005 23:52
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	monkeymajik	Mon, 06 June 2005 00:45
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	BOCKA	Mon, 06 June 2005 03:40
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	cri_ag	Mon, 06 June 2005 07:16
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	berad	Mon, 06 June 2005 08:09
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	cri_ag	Mon, 06 June 2005 10:24
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Mon, 06 June 2005 10:26
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	cri_ag	Mon, 06 June 2005 10:31
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	EMP-2TG	Mon, 06 June 2005 12:06
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	thechuckster	Mon, 06 June 2005 13:15
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	frontspinner	Mon, 06 June 2005 14:23
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	frontspinner	Mon, 06 June 2005 14:25
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	Norbie	Tue, 07 June 2005 03:12
	Re: Dump Pipe -- Screamer Pipe wtf?	frontspinner	Tue, 07 June 2005 03:21

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