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Re: P PLATERS!!! ENGINE MODS ARE OUT!!!

Sun, 12 June 2005 04:15

Lambolica wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 09:06

This is my opinion on the subject, But somthing needs to be done to change the attitude of young drivers on the roads, Personally I think the new rules are on the right track but the Victorian solution is a better one.

from what I understand and see on the roads is there is a small minority that spoil it all for the rest. (I am a generation ahead of the current P-Platers and got my full licence before the Green P's stuff came in.) Most females generally are quite happy to get a Excel, echo, Corolla or other such "cute" car and drive it around and gain experience over time. Guys on the other hand tend to look for the best their money (or their parents money) can get them and drive like peak hour is a starting grid and every one else on the road is competition. In an Excel that really means they will kill the engine faster in a V8, Skyline or similar this can lead to trouble.

Out of all the young folk wanting to get a car for their P-plates there is only a small percentage (I'd say less than 20%) who will either get a Hi powered car or modified car. and from that percentage I'd say less than 3-5% can afford said car. In the end some smooth talking to the parents, a cheque, a promise to pay it back = over powered car, that they didn't fork out the money for and generally have no respect for the value of the car after the insurance (under parents name) is paid for. If it gets written off they get another car.

Me personally. My first car was bourght buy my parents, they lashed out and got me a $500 Gemini with about 6 months rego and was told that was it. Fine, cool, car... and lack of money. I worked after school for money for fuel and a bit to go toward rego all was good. I sky larked I'll admit that, I had hairy moments I'll admit that too. both me and the car came out unscathed and I was invincable. until I pushed it too far one night and put the front wheel into a gutter bending the front suspension out of whack. tut tut from the parents and a loan of the family car to go to the wreckers for parts and 2 weeks off the road while I worked out how suspension works and replaced the crossmember and all the shit I screwed up. From there I learnt (albeit the hard way) to respect the car and my reliance on it. that was and is my only at fault Accident that caused major damage to the car and I value the work that goes into all the cars I have owned from there.

My younger brother did almost the exact same thing, Cheap Celica, Same corner, similar damage fixed himself.

Whilst this was happening our mates around us were losing licences in their VL turbos, RX7's that their parents pay for and one of my mates lost his life and my brothers mate is now a paraplegic and nearly killed my brother being an idiot ( that is putting it lightly) the shit they were doing I couldn't do in the Gemini.

The Point to this long winded rant... The vast majority of P-Platers are happy just to drive, the small minority of people who want to drive modified or hi powered cars should be the ones targeted. to the effect of somthing like this.
Current testing and driving test if you wish to drive a car with < 90kw/tonne.
90-120 kw/tonne (maximum allowable N/A only, no V8's or over)
should require the current testing + a driver training system that doesn't give you a false sense of driver skill and that you can be failed on if you are crap. + fuck all points on a licence so you value the points you have. (I don't know how many you get ATM.)
At the end of the day the government can do little to change the attitude of the small minority that screw it for the rest. But I know the governing bodies cannot give you 5 years of driving experience in a test. They also cannot give you the life changing experience of holding the hand of a good mate as he dies wrapped around a telegraph pole, whispering "I'm sorry... I'm sorry... I'm Sorry"

Sorry for the Long post, this topic touches a very raw nerve and in my opinion the governing bodies are looking at this the wrong way.

hmm very insightfull post there
im able to relate and thats what frustrates me, i see the current system and the system planned will NOT work
we need education and skills not limitations as at the end of the day limitations are ignored like speed limits for example
give these kids a chance at least by giving them the skills and education to know what can go wrong and what to do if the shit does hit the fan
as people pass various driving skills levels the size and power fo the vehicles go higher
fro example
bran briscoe is only young ( not sure how young) yet if ehs on his p plates eh would be restricted even thou he has more experience and skills than 99% of those on the roads

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