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Re: Need Legal Advice Tue, 14 June 2005 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
86tt wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 00:21



thu187: I think you are completely missing the point, I'm not saying you can continue to do dangerous things on the road, that's beyond the point, but the system should hand the responsibility back to the driver, to learn to make their own good judgement, read through all the previous post and think again. Don't put stupid words in my mouth.

No, it's not beyond the point, it's the point we're talking about. The system DOES hand responsibility to the driver! What are you talking about? If I am caught speeding I am held responsible, not somebody else. Please explain what you mean.
86tt wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 00:21


So many other people gets abused or die of other horrible causes, which causes just as much pain and grief to their family and friends, but they're not getting the correct amount of attention?!?! The reason? Because it doesn't give the government any joy or profits to catch a true criminal, everyone's a tax payer and they should be living in a world which is as ideal as possible.

The reason it gets the amount of attention it gets is because it is unnecessary! In a murder, someone is killed. The intent is to kill and it is a criminal act. With speeding:
1. It CAN kill.
2. Most importantly it is avoidable and wreckless.
You don't HAVE to speed. Nobody is forcing you to. When these young people drive too fast (speed) and smash into poles and die it COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. That's why speeding fatalaties are a tragedy. This is why there are so many anti-speeding campaigns. Believe it or not people don't want to be hit by your idiotic self travelling at 160km/h. If you want to die then that's your business. What would you like them to do? Bring on campaigns saying "Don't murder. It's not bad luck, it's a crime" ?
The reason they are telling people and warn people not to do it is because it is AVOIDABLE! If you need to get somewhere at a certain time and it's important then you should plan to leave early.

86tt wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 00:21


This is the point, back to the word "education", maybe you are too young to understand, everyone is brought up differently, a good example is, you were brought up with the government, telling you all the time, speed kills, every k is a killer, and you really believed them,

but for other problem child/teenager, maybe their parents and guardian didn't pay them too much attention, and they were brought up in the wrong manner, their peers may be telling them, speeding is cool, I've driven 200km/h here and there and all those crap,

or they were brought up in a violent city and thinks he will solve everything by his fist and they believed it... Just the same way you believed "speed kills" and you'll probably never will get over it too by the look of things, and who is to blame? The government is exploiting your emotions with the help of the media and you've got conned, badly!

Now who is putting stupid things in whose mouth? First of all don't patronise me, you're probably the same age as I am.
Secondly people are brought up differently, that's true. We still know right from wrong. I don't think you understand. Myself and others on this forum are not complaining that you drove 15 or 20km/h over the limit. You drove 80 f*cking kilometres over the limit and you think you can justify that? Are you telling me you can control your car perfectly at that speed? Why not get out on the track and show everyone then.
And where the hell where you going that required you to drive 80km/h over the speed limit? Answer me that.
Speeding DOES kill. People like you speed along and then a car pulls out and they're not able to stop in time or lose control and kill themselves. I'm not saying it happens all the time and speeding automatically means death (which you seem to think I mean).


At the end of the day 86tt, there are laws in this country. I don't care what your background is or how you were raised. If you're going to break the law then suffer the consequences. If you think speeding kills or if you think driving 200km/h on streets is cool or if you believe 'you will solve everything with your fist' Rolling Eyes guess what?
The law doesn't change! The law is the same for EVERYONE.
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