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river
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Re: anyone here use REALbasic?

Sat, 18 June 2005 06:23

Hi,

RWDboy wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 01:25

river -> I didn't know you were such an old school coder type Razz

Assembler is considered, like, evil these days - even in the case of developing device drivers and the like. I love to get dirty and work on optimising inner loops, maximising primary primary cache hits or removing pipeline stalls (oh man when you get it right it's so good, when you get it wrong it's so bad Very Happy

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Anyway, real coders don't exist anymore, only software engineers (or pussies as I call 'em)

Yep, I'm an old Assembler programmer. Before that I was a hardware (chip level) technician and then in the mid-late 70's the microprocessor revolution kicked off and I was in heaven.

So, I started collecting and programming these little beasts, and then designed hardware for them and all that jazz. My Assembler exploits cover 8080/8085/Z80, 6502, 6800, 6809, SC/MP, 8088/86, 80186, 80286, 9900, 1802, 2650 and 68000 processors. I do a fair bit of microcontroller Assembly programming with the MicroChip and the Atmel AVR range of chips. In the bigger world I used to program the Data General Nova minicomputers and a fair bit of IBM S/360-S/370 mainframe Assembler.

I then did a lot of C programming on IBM Series/1 with built in 68000 comms cards. Most of my Assembler and C code was for realtime comms, operating systems and VTAM/CICS interfacing.

You're dead right about "real" coders don't exist anymore. They don't and it beats me that Universities teach simplistic languages like Java and it's ilk when they should be teaching them harder, more serious stuff like C, C++ and Assembler. Any good C++ programmer could pick up Java in a few days, however I doubt the reverse could be said.

In my day the hardware was much more expensive than the programmers time, so it was important to create tight and fast code 'cos another 8K of RAM would cost too much! Nowadays it's the opposite and it is cheaper to add more RAM or another HDD or processor to make up for the shortfalls of poor/bloated code.

The only reason that Assembler is regarded as evil is 'cos the vast majority of programmers can't do it - nor can their mentors and teachers. But for me, for what I do, it's the only language - and if anything it's taught me to count and do arithmetic in binary, octal and hex! Smile

Enough of my old-man "I remember the days...." rant. Razz

seeyuzz
river

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