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Big T Forums Junkie Location: Sydney Registered: September 2004	Re: Martial Arts Fri, 01 July 2005 13:56 Well I've studied Shaolin Kung Fu for about 7 years in the past. It was excellent for SKILLS but your fighting ability only really start increasing with REAL practice (theres a big difference between technique and application) This means basically getting a group of skilled fighters and sparring barehand. You use about 70-80% power so when something does hit hard, it's not TOO bad. You obviously need to void crippling techiniques like breaking, but it will happen from time to time as well. Critical points like throat/temples/groin etc are all allowable (gotta learn to block those 1st ) You also need to keep sparring different people because eventually you'll learn each other's techniques. Problems will come up when someone starts getting shitty about losing and begins to fight at full capacity. We always had 2 separate judges to make sure things stayed relatively in control. Either that or get into a crapload of fights. And i do realise that this is a shallow view of martial arts. But if we're talking about "self defence" and the ability to take care of yourself, it becomes important. But with that said, the guys that train this way ARE real martial artists. It's to test their abilities and see how far they can push themselves. Anyone that has fought in continuous full contact sparring (no not point sparring ) knows that a 2 or 3 min round doesn't sound like much... but do it for 10 rounds. The best of these guys go for a continuous (ZERO break) 30min spar with multiple opponents. In regards to the Internal and External arts, obviously i would be primarily an external martial artist. I have met and sparred an Internal master. He was UNSTOPPABLE. Yes i was able to hit him (in critical areas as well) but their bodies do not react in the same way. It is as much a mental process as a physical one. I did learn a few techniques from him but i stopped training soon after this so never had the time to develop them. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Martial Arts	SilverGhost	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:14
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:17
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:40
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:42
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:50
	Re: Martial Arts	SilverGhost	Wed, 17 November 2004 08:26
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Wed, 17 November 2004 09:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:00
	Re: Martial Arts	draven	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:34
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:42
	Re: Martial Arts	justcallmefrank	Thu, 18 November 2004 00:48
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 18:10
	Re: Martial Arts	MFX_Neko_86	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:39
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:02
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:37
	Re: Martial Arts	draven	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:52
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Wed, 17 November 2004 22:50
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Thu, 18 November 2004 14:05
	Re: Martial Arts	4ageeza	Thu, 18 November 2004 15:12
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 00:49
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 01:28
	Re: Martial Arts	yut_hon	Thu, 14 July 2005 01:37
	Re: Martial Arts	ra23mad	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:15
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 05:15
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 05:19
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:07
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:13
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:17
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:27
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:30
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:22
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:42
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:09
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:20
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:22
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:27
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 08:41
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:05
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:30
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:37
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:44
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 11:16
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:55
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Thu, 18 November 2004 16:27
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 21:38
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 18:03
	Re: Martial Arts	Goose	Fri, 19 November 2004 00:32
	Re: Martial Arts	4ageeza	Fri, 19 November 2004 00:58
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Fri, 19 November 2004 01:49
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Sat, 20 November 2004 07:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Goose	Fri, 19 November 2004 03:17
	Re: Martial Arts	Bill Sherwood	Sat, 20 November 2004 08:10
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Mon, 22 November 2004 03:46
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Mon, 22 November 2004 04:41
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:04
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:09
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:13
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:14
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:23
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Wed, 29 June 2005 07:25
	Re: Martial Arts	BigBadBenny	Thu, 14 July 2005 13:16
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Mon, 22 November 2004 06:19
	Re: Martial Arts	Norminator	Mon, 22 November 2004 06:28
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Mon, 22 November 2004 10:55
	Re: Martial Arts	fractoid	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:23
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Mon, 22 November 2004 14:37
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 00:27
	Re: Martial Arts	justcallmefrank	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:24
	Re: Martial Arts	fractoid	Mon, 22 November 2004 12:11
	Re: Martial Arts	Shraka	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:34
	Re: Martial Arts	MFX_Neko_86	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:47
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Mon, 22 November 2004 12:39
	Re: Martial Arts	Shraka	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:28
	Re: Martial Arts	Evil_Foetus	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:35
	Re: Martial Arts	Yian	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:39
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:39
	Re: Martial Arts	RAV-GT4	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:44
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:07
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:15
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:26
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:49
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Tue, 23 November 2004 10:21
	Re: Martial Arts	muaythaiman	Tue, 23 November 2004 11:02
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:20
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 23 November 2004 15:38
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:32
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:35
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:39
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Wed, 24 November 2004 03:27
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Wed, 24 November 2004 18:20
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Fri, 24 June 2005 13:21
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 01:19
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Fri, 24 June 2005 14:27
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Fri, 24 June 2005 15:53
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Fri, 24 June 2005 16:34
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Fri, 24 June 2005 17:02
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Fri, 24 June 2005 17:10
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Fri, 24 June 2005 17:15
	Re: Martial Arts	captain chaos	Fri, 24 June 2005 23:53
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Sat, 25 June 2005 02:10
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 04:49
	Re: Martial Arts	illuminatus	Sat, 25 June 2005 05:19
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 06:27
	Re: Martial Arts	sleeker162	Sat, 25 June 2005 08:39
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 08:49
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:38
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Sat, 25 June 2005 10:25
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:44
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:54
	Re: Martial Arts	captain chaos	Wed, 29 June 2005 05:26
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Fri, 01 July 2005 09:35
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Fri, 01 July 2005 09:57
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 19:34
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Fri, 01 July 2005 10:34
	Re: Martial Arts	Big T	Fri, 01 July 2005 13:56
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Fri, 01 July 2005 15:31
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 02 July 2005 08:19
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Sat, 02 July 2005 11:53
	Re: Martial Arts	bubbles	Sat, 02 July 2005 12:11
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Mon, 04 July 2005 14:45
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 02 July 2005 14:43
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Mon, 04 July 2005 00:51
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Mon, 04 July 2005 16:12
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 05 July 2005 01:06
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Tue, 05 July 2005 03:37
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 05 July 2005 08:28
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Wed, 06 July 2005 05:09
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Wed, 06 July 2005 07:53
	Re: Martial Arts	dlwd3w	Thu, 07 July 2005 04:35
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 07 July 2005 09:51
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 07 July 2005 09:53
	Re: Martial Arts	dlwd3w	Sun, 17 July 2005 07:28
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sun, 17 July 2005 10:01

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