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Re: Boost issues with 4AGZE Wed, 06 July 2005 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
im thinking today that its possible that due to the extra rotational mass of the upgraded supercharger size (mostly internally) the engine may not have enough torque to spin it at such revs and maybe the belt is slipping on the actual crank pulley. ive had a look at 1GGZE motors and 4agze motors to check out the layout of the belt and tensioner, trying to see if there is a different pattern and possibly that the 1GGZE has a better mechanical advantage with the belt and pulley setup that the belt is forced to grip, instead of prone to slipping.

if you look at this picture here, this is of a 1GGZE :
http://www.solidlight.it/toyota/image/1GGZE.jpg

the engine rotates clockwise, and thus PULLS the belt through the tensioner.

http://www.members.westnet.com.au/adsport/1ggze.jpg
on the 4AGZE, the tensioner is run from the bottom:

http://www.fensport.co.uk/partsfiles/kitcarfiles/4agzecutaway.jpg

so here we can see that effectively the belt is being moreso pushed through the tensioner than pulled out of the pulley.

http://www.members.westnet.com.au/adsport/4agze.jpg

My theory is that maybe flex in the belt, which would cause the belt to slip, is giving slack from the force of being pushed by the crank to go over the tensioner pulley thus snowballing the effect. I would really like to try setting up the belt so that it is fed to the s/c first then over the top and under the tensioner, up to the water pump and then down back to the crank.

doe sit make any sense to anyone else?


this would also possibly give us more contact on the supercharger pulley and lessening the risk again (in theory) of a slipping belt.

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