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Re: has it been done v6 in ta22 Mon, 18 July 2005 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
different mindset because of different engine Wink

sound slike you are talking about the turbo bugger... well, we only get the NA (and maybe the SC) versions, but point in discussion here is the NA 3.8 vs the comparable 2L turbo and 3L NA/turbo toyota 6's....

now if you wanna talk big displacement turbo, need i point out the twin turbo 1UZ's? only 200cc more Wink

for those buicks of which you speak, to run low 10's they need to be around 800 flywheel hp. compared to 200hp stock.... i think we are no longer talking stock engines Wink
so what boost are they running to quadruple the stock output? around 40psi? quick calc, 800Hp at 5700rpm = 1000Nm. with 100% volumetric efficiency. you need MINIMUM of 24psi...
the buick GNX made 480Nm with 15psi... (2bar absolute, it should be getting 650Nm, so it has about 74% VE.. still.. and it mae max torque at 2000rpm.. not 5700rpm..)

extrapolating that to try and get 1000Nm, they will need around 37psi of boost to make 800hp at 5700rpm, assuming it still stays at 74% efficiency, which is unlikely at such massive boost levels..

now a 2JZ with 40psi? anyone care to guess? as a quick ref, that JUN supra was making 750ps and 800Nm on 24psi... now if that was just wound up a bit Wink

oh and GM hacked ECU = Delco? = standalone ECU option with Kalmaker Razz
hacked = NOT stock Wink
40psi = NOT stock Wink

yeah 4 valve mindset Laughing i like my 2 valvers thanks, but 4 valve just typically has higher VE...

and i still think either 1GGTE, 2JZGE, 2JZGTE, or 1UZFE will be a helluvalot nicer than an NA 3.8L buick motor. if you want to talk turbo, compare buick with the turbo 1UZ in the GT8....



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