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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: has it been done v6 in ta22
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Mon, 18 July 2005 10:37
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Just a few things though:
The V6's we saw in Australia are in no way suitable for big power operations in stock form. The crankshafts are but one fundamental example... Standard, they are lacking strength, lacking power, rough, dirty and often thirsty (I've heard many people claim they've had great runs on the highway, but never yet seen anyone actually fill one up and achieve it!) The problem here is not just the fact that the engine itself was bad, but also the people that buy them. For example, Ford Australia took a reasonably good 4.6l 4 cam Mustang motor, and decided it needed the 5.4 litre truck bottom end to put it in the Falcon. Not because it would have more power, but so they could sell it up against the 5.7 litre LS1 (now 6 litre LS2) Commodore. In the process they basically ruined what was a good engine to start with.
Not that long ago, Holden finally ditched the pushrod V6 in favour of this 'marvellous' HFV6, with variable valve timing, 4 cams, aluminium block, etc. - what should be a reasonable engine. However, the couple I've been in are so much like the old Buick engine it's frightening - but the fact remains, the people won't buy anything that doesn't seem like the old one.
Not all '4 valve' engines are good, of course. I don't automatically like an engine because it is an 'import' or '4 valve', it's just that the Buick V6 never did a whole lot to impress me much. I've never seen the factory turbo version that Americans seem to speak so highly of, so I can't comment on it, but the supercharged and NA versions did little to excite me.
Of course, there is one final thing: really speaking there is NO such thing as a good otto cycle engine - no matter how many vavles they have etc., they still achieve apalling thermal efficiency, and therefore consume enormous quantities of fuel for what they actually do, are extemely dirty, noisy, and are old technology that is well past its time. However, many people, myself included, have grown to enjoy playing with the things, as well as the discussion/debate that it brings.
Never take it TOO personally, and as long as you enjoy what you do, that's great. Just don't automatically assume someone is an idiot because they suggest a slightly different way of doing something may be better!
One more thing: I was in Hawaii a couple of weeks ago, and American beer is utter crap
[Updated on: Mon, 18 July 2005 10:38]
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quest | Mon, 18 July 2005 09:45 |
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mrshin | Mon, 18 July 2005 10:37 |
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