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icon10.gif  Re: Replacing 22-RE with 1JZ-GTE or 1G-GTE in RA6x Wed, 22 January 2003 01:09 Go to previous messageGo to previous message

Dan, There is alot of information on the Web and on Forums like this Unfortunatly there is always alot of Mis-information so you do need to be able to look and evaluate what is there to sort the fact from the fiction. You need to find the people who have done it themselves not people who read something somewhere and think they know. Unfortunatly this thread has been corrupted by someone who thinks he knows, But enough Rant and down to some Facts.

The 1UZ-FE is rated at weighing 175kg, it is a pretty good weight for an engine its size. Engine bay wize you will need a space of 700mm cube ! I had one, I have measured it and I have also assisted in 2 1UZ Conversions. The Bellhousing kit etc for a 1UZ to W58 from Dellows is $1000 Aus not the $500 quoted earlier. Remember you need a flywheel as well as the bellhousing !
After that your biggest installation hassels will be your rear most Exhaust port near the stearing box/rack. Oh and as Mention your Sump clearance could cause you some issues !

The 1JZ-GTE is a Great engine and also comes in several Sump options. I have fitted one of these to my brothers car and completely 100% stock with restrictive Exhaust it generated 140 RWKW, Yes its Auto ! By Comparison the Stock 1UZ as Fitted to an earlier model Soarer made 122 RWKW also an Auto and these two engine run basically the same Factory Auto ! This was one THE SAME DAY on the SAME DYNO. Please look over the figures For Sundays Dyno day held by our Club in the events section of the forums. Bugmans Gen 3 1GGTE in completely Factory trim turned 123.9 RWKW.

The 1G-GTE is IMHO the better option for your car, It will probably weight less than your Current 22-RE and be a much easier installation size wize. There are several versions of the 1G and you should look at Nark's comments to understand the one you need, IE a front sump Version. Nark has Done this exact conversion he is not going off something he thinks or read.

The earlier versions of the 1G-GTE run 7PSI boost from Factory, The Generation 3 Front Sump Version with the Grey ECU plugs and winged sump runs 11PSI factory. My wife Tina's car has just received this engine, it is an RA28 so size limitations are similar to yours. Her car has received the benefit of a Front Mount Intercooler and a 3" hi flow Exhaust. The engine is completely stock and runs the Factory ECU. Boost when completely untouched was 9.5 PSI at the intake. Using a bleed valve the boost was turned back up to 11.5 PSI. On Sunday it turned 142 RWKW thru a W55 Manual Transmission ! The Turbo's are supposedly happy at up to 14PSi so there is still as yet some untapped power should it be desired.

At the end of the day tho you need to decide what you are ultimatly trying to acheive. If its HUGE power the 1G is not for you, It is only a 2litre engine and will be limited by this in terms of acheiveable results. The 1UZ on the otherhand does have a near bullet proof bottom end and the 1J engine has been proven to respond well to larger Turbo/s and increased boost. ( Best modified 1JZ-GTE Result on the day was 212 RWKW)

If your after a near stock and cost effective power increase I'd personal lean to the 1G-GTE, you will have very respectable power and retain your handling. There is a reason they are so popular Smile





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