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Re: Front wheel Drives: fun or no fun
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Sat, 13 August 2005 11:08
 
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I'm sure I remember something about some BMW 4wd that can lap the ring quicker than a stock 911 (996, not sure about the 997) must've been some other soft roader, maybe it was the porche cayenne turbo or some M sport X-5 variant. Anyway, my point was that fast lap times do not, a fun driving experience make.
As I stated, I know FWD's can be fast in both straights and cornering situations if set up correctly but it's still a compromise IMO, most of the front drivers people have quoted as being fun are characterised as fun because they go some way towards imitating the behaviour of a rear drive, most of them would probably also be quicker on a track if the lift off oversteer was dialled out.
Whoever said that driving a FWD was similar to driving a MR or RR.....what?. Driving all cars is about trying to maintain traction (unless you're trying to drift, which is a totally different story), I would have said that Mid engine layout is actually the furthest removed from FWD seeing that mid/rear engine cars can get the power down earlier and therefore must turn in earlier (the opposite of a front driver). I'll admit that 4wd's do have some of the handling characteristics of FWD's but that is caused by their front wheels driving(funny that).
The purpose of this thread was not to say that FWD's are shit, nor do I believe that fun has to involve sideways action.
What I was reffering to was this: In a rwd car I find I'll take a corner at say 80k's and think "that was about as fast as I could have gone"..........three month's later I'll take it at 85k's and think "hmmm, maybe there's a little more still in it with a diff' line" and when I try it again I'll find I can clear it at 95!. With a front drive, this just doesn't seem to happen (not for me anyway) I find I'll be able to get maybe an extra 5 k's over my first attempt and any higher speed attempt will result in low exit speed.
I'm not trying to argue about whose car is faster, what I'm trying to say is that driving a rear wheel drive is more comlpex, and therefore it takes longer to perfect your line/technique, which is where I get my fun from (rather than a pure adrenalin rush)
I would say that FWD's need better reflexes/bigger balls but less thought than RWD's, unless we're talking big power/snap oversteer.
[Updated on: Sat, 13 August 2005 11:34]
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