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Re: ghost (not this s*%t again)	Sun, 14 August 2005 10:44

Im always intrigued by the religious discussion. Ive fallen in and out of religious circles over my brief interlude on this earth, most of my experiences havent been positive, thats not to say that the religion I was practicing in at the time was bad or the people were evil or demented. Just that my overall experience wasnt a positive one. I think i was born 100% sceptic.. that doesent really work for the belief system.. and I havent found a religion yet that likes anyone asking twenty question everytime someone opens there mouth to quote some crap with thier own bent from the greatest novel of all time. I guess thats why I had average experiences.. I like to ask a lot of questions.. unfortunately I found that most religious groups knowledge is only a few questions deep.. try this next time the mormons knock on the door.... wait till theyve said there piece.. pick one of the religious quotes they use.. then ask them why that quote is so significant. Keep asking and exploring it down to microscopic level by asking why on each important statement they make in regard to the first question.. ill bet that by the time you get to the 5th "why" they are getting frustrated because really they havent bothered to explore it that far individually... bit of blind faith perhaps. there was always one question I never got an answer to... in the scheme of religions whenever you talk about evolution they generally answer in a modernistic way like... "well yes evolution was there but god can start from very small beginnings and although man was created by god the bible doesent give exact definitions as to the term created, so an instant man my not neccesarily be correct in the overall term but god still created us" and you might answer back something like.. " and so god was given the power to create all of us? and they will generally agree after a 5 minute long winded reply then ask them... "well if god had the power to create all of us, with our inbuilt floors and faults, and he had been given the power to create everything around us, and he gave us the power to sin, then who gave god the power to create us? and who created this diety called god? Is there a higher level of god? sorta like a corporation type thing?" anyway, I agree with what has been said previously... no matter how much you try to logically define religion its always going to be a head against the brick wall battle, logical people generally like to analyse to get a fact to believe in. People with devout belief will always ignore facts, because with those facts their beliefs may be flawed and they will have to find another belief system, hey lets face it, no one like to be told what they believe in has been totally wrong. At the end of the day we are all here using things to help us get thru life. Some of us are happy to travel along believing that we as individuals can shape outcomes by our own decisions to a certain point, and of course there is an element of the unknown or fate tossed in, but generally we tend to believe in ourselves and our ability to judge what is right and wrong by the reactions of others to our own actions and try and get thru with as much happiness as possible. Then some of us also go thru life needed a helping hand to get over what mental blocks we put in place about life, we need something to believe in to use as a crutch to help us on our merry way thru the unknown of life in order to accept unexplicable events and outcomes that may not seem in our favour. Discalimer: this message was not intended to insult, demean,critise or define via pigeon holing any one or particular group.. if you feel any of my statements did the above please feel free to PM me where I can really let loose [Report message to a moderator]

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