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VeeP Regular Location: WA Registered: May 2005	Re: Blasphemous Mod Sun, 14 August 2005 15:49 mate, 3.8L commy motors do produce heaps of torque down low. But, they are big, heavy (iron block some with alloy heads), dont rev, PUSHROD, dinosaurs. Old design, and they rely on capacity to produce numbers. If ur gonna go through the effort to put a large and heavy motor in, why not go a 1UZ? Significantly larger amounts of power, more rev, save petrol, last longer, and u get some refinement in amongst it. Of course, it all depends on the money u want to spend. Quest - the VG30 is not a massive motor, i really wonder wether u have ANY idea on the VG30 at all after saying that. . . btw, a SR20 is actually slightly longer than a VG30. Although a VG30 is relatively heavy (but not excessively so), its torquey, and a very strong midrange performer that in stock trim retains petrol efficiency with huge potential. VG30 (like in a z32) give 430hp @ flywheel daily with no problems without even opening the motor in ANY way or changing the turbos. Unfortunately for us, alot of GM parts which americans can find cheaply are unavaible here. Also, the 3800 in commodores are unrefined, undeveloped and again, HEAVY. This Buick version u speak of would be difficult to source for someone here, and im sure would be a different motor in many respects. A commy 6 is fine if u wanna drive in a straight line, but you cant afford a 10% - 15% weight increase over the front of the car when you want to be able to corner too. Man, why not go a RB30? Easily sourced, alot of avaialbe parts, and ur still getting a 3L OHC motor. Smaller than a big 6, bigger than a small 6. HEAPS of parts, many turbo conversions done, heaps of potential and has served many a VL turbo into the 400hp+ with bone stock bottom end. Quest talks of a motor which you definetely wont be able to easily get in australia (though some parts are interchangleable im sure), and ur still looking at a heavy motor with an old design. But, it will have plenty down low. . . . Ahhh, fuck it, get a 302 or 308 and do it right [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Blasphemous Mod	PayneyCelica18rg	Thu, 21 April 2005 02:44
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	ke382TG	Thu, 21 April 2005 03:21
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	81LOWLUX	Thu, 21 April 2005 03:26
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Col W	Fri, 12 August 2005 14:02
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	ra_28	Thu, 21 April 2005 04:48
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	CrUZsida	Thu, 21 April 2005 04:58
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	ra_28	Thu, 21 April 2005 06:06
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	CrUZsida	Thu, 21 April 2005 06:12
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	ra_28	Thu, 21 April 2005 06:25
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	CrUZsida	Thu, 21 April 2005 04:57
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	HyDrA	Thu, 21 April 2005 05:11
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Merudo	Thu, 21 April 2005 06:12
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	rob_RA40	Thu, 21 April 2005 05:19
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	81LOWLUX	Thu, 21 April 2005 05:59
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	h3ff44	Thu, 21 April 2005 06:24
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	flyinwall	Thu, 21 April 2005 06:53
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	81LOWLUX	Thu, 21 April 2005 06:57
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	ra_28	Thu, 21 April 2005 07:01
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	EldarO	Thu, 21 April 2005 06:57
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	CrUZsida	Thu, 21 April 2005 07:03
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	flyinwall	Thu, 21 April 2005 07:16
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	81LOWLUX	Thu, 21 April 2005 07:21
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Super Jamie	Thu, 21 April 2005 08:05
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	CrUZsida	Thu, 21 April 2005 08:18
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	EldarO	Thu, 21 April 2005 10:34
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Dale_ta22	Thu, 21 April 2005 12:39
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	EldarO	Thu, 21 April 2005 15:18
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Dale_ta22	Fri, 22 April 2005 02:45
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Johnny	Fri, 22 April 2005 12:40
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	sideshow	Thu, 21 April 2005 08:22
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Super Jamie	Thu, 21 April 2005 12:49
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	badboybubby	Thu, 21 April 2005 12:59
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	mrshin	Thu, 21 April 2005 15:26
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	PayneyCelica18rg	Fri, 22 April 2005 01:25
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	81LOWLUX	Fri, 22 April 2005 01:33
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Super Jamie	Fri, 22 April 2005 01:46
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	81LOWLUX	Fri, 22 April 2005 01:53
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Turbo_Tim	Sat, 13 August 2005 01:23
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Super Jamie	Sat, 13 August 2005 01:41
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	berad	Sat, 13 August 2005 01:46
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	quest	Sat, 13 August 2005 18:13
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Norbie	Sun, 14 August 2005 06:43
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	brett_celicacoupe	Sun, 14 August 2005 09:33
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Mr DOHC	Sun, 14 August 2005 09:49
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	4ageeza	Sun, 14 August 2005 00:34
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	ke105k	Sun, 14 August 2005 11:41
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	quest	Sun, 14 August 2005 12:23
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	mideon_696	Sun, 14 August 2005 15:14
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	VeeP	Sun, 14 August 2005 15:49
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Corona RT142	Mon, 15 August 2005 01:35
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Johnny	Mon, 15 August 2005 07:06
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	hemi twofifteen turbo	Mon, 15 August 2005 09:08
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	Mr DOHC	Mon, 15 August 2005 11:51
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	dayzii	Sat, 20 August 2005 06:18
	Re: Blasphemous Mod	terra	Sat, 20 August 2005 07:14

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