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Re: ghost (not this s*%t again) Mon, 15 August 2005 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Hi,

bubbles wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 16:24

Since the bible is gods book, dont you think false prophets would only be allowed to lie about the book, saing stuff like, the scriptures have been changed and oh, its best not to have a religion because the bible has changed., when really it says the same, just in a way that its easier to understand, for eg the oldest bible when Moses wrote Genesis and was translate from Hebraic to english, there were a lot of plural on terms has in he was speaking to people in general(like an audience), really thats how they spoke, but if I went to grab a newer bible its all in single terms and its easier to understand and it really says the same thing. Nothing really changed.
Besides everything in the bible makes sense, only to those who dont want to know


Alas, it isn't gods book. While the original works may have been written by men and women (mortals) I will, for arguments sake, assume the hand of God was involved in these writings.

The issue is that not all these works made it into the Bible. I would think that God, assuming its involvement with the texts, would like the entire story to be included for it to truly be his book.

The New Testament, as we know it, began to take shape in AD367 when a library of writings was sifted and collated ready for selection. Initial work was by Bishop Athanasius of Alexandria, who invented the term "canon" (approved law) and who became known as the Father or Othodoxy. before this there was no formally compiled book of the faith, just a series of individual Christian texts which were in various parts of the Roman Empire.

From Athanasuis' shortlist certain works were approved and ratified by the Council of Hippo in AD393, and by the Council of Carthage in AD397. There were various criteria which governed the selection - the first being the Gospels chosen for the New Testament must be written in the names of Jesus' own apostles. This ruling seems to have been disregarded from the outset, and the four Gospels that were approved for canonical use were those of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. While Matthew and John were apostles, Mark and Luke were not - they were presented in Acts as being collegues of St Paul. However, Thomas, Philip and Peter were among the original twelve, yet the Gospels in their names were excluded. Moreso, these texts were sentenced to be destroyed, and throughtout the Mediterranean world people hid away these works, along with the Gospel of Mary which had suddenly been declared heretical.

Following this, the strategically compiled version of the New Testament was subjected to any number of edits and ammendments, until the version we are now familiar was approved by the Council of Trento, in Northern Italy, as late as 1547.

If indeed the Bible is God's book, one would of expected all the writings to be included. It appears that man has had his heavy hand into the sculpturing of the Bible. Sadly, it seems that God's book has been neutered and pasterised to ensure it met the needs of the men at the time and the religous views and doctrines they wished to portray.

Until all the texts are put into the one book and any changes and ammendments are reversed back to their true meanings I cannot accept the book is any more Gods book than I can accept a book on the letters A to P can represent the true alphabet. It is incomplete - deliberatly so.

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