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Shraka Forums Junkie Location: Melbourne Registered: November 2003	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue? Thu, 18 August 2005 04:46 You know a few states in america actualy point to the road tolls in victoria when we got speed camereas to justify their own speed camera introductions. You know why? 'cuz Victoria is the only place in the WORLD where road fatalities and accidents went DOWN the year they introduced camreas. I looked at the graph on that transit website thingy. It sure did go down, but only a touch more than the AVERAGE decrease in road accidents. It then leveled off the next year (ie, stopped going down), then continued it's downward trend, only with much less decrease from year to year. You put speeds to high, people die. Put them to low, people die. A lot of professionals in the area of road fatalities will tell you, what speed people are doing isn't as important as them all doing the SAME speed. A high percentage (can't remember exactly, but more than half) of road fatalities happen in rural areas. This has been helped by putting propper signage, and fixing roads up. Yet it's the inner city roads that have the limits dropped, and have speed cameras put on them. I'm all for cops pulling people over for speeding, but it should be more about people doing dangerously high speeds in traffic... or driving commodores at high speed. I agree with previous statements. People should have propper training in driving. I think everyone should learn to drive a manual too (there are some things I notice auto drivers do that scare the hell outta me). Auto only drivers tend (and I say tend, 'cuz there are exeptions) to act like their car is a big comfy couch that will get them to where they are going, rather than a big, heavy, heighly sophisticated peice of machinery that is capable of killing you, your friends, or innocent bystanders. anyway, back to work for me. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	86tt	Wed, 03 August 2005 04:35
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	thu187	Wed, 03 August 2005 04:53
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Nark	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:05
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	86tt	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:57
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	berad	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:03
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	ke382TG	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:07
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	86tt	Thu, 04 August 2005 06:38
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	TRD_Supra	Fri, 05 August 2005 03:43
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	86tt	Fri, 05 August 2005 03:54
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	ke382TG	Fri, 05 August 2005 04:02
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	86tt	Fri, 05 August 2005 04:17
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Corona RT142	Fri, 05 August 2005 04:21
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	ke382TG	Fri, 05 August 2005 04:24
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	cannonball	Fri, 05 August 2005 04:32
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Corona RT142	Fri, 05 August 2005 04:33
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	ke382TG	Fri, 05 August 2005 04:34
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Corona RT142	Fri, 05 August 2005 04:36
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Joshstix	Fri, 05 August 2005 09:07
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	ke382TG	Fri, 05 August 2005 09:39
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	86tt	Fri, 05 August 2005 14:01
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	EldarO	Fri, 05 August 2005 15:25
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	olihaub	Sat, 06 August 2005 03:31
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	86tt	Sat, 06 August 2005 11:41
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	4DaDrift	Thu, 18 August 2005 03:25
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	86tt	Thu, 18 August 2005 03:59
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Merudo	Thu, 18 August 2005 04:06
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Corona RT142	Thu, 18 August 2005 04:12
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Shraka	Thu, 18 August 2005 04:46
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	4DaDrift	Thu, 18 August 2005 05:50
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	4DaDrift	Thu, 18 August 2005 05:56
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Corona RT142	Thu, 18 August 2005 04:48
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	ke382TG	Thu, 18 August 2005 06:27
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	4DaDrift	Thu, 18 August 2005 06:44
	Re: Speed Traps: Saving Lives or Raising Revenue?	Shraka	Thu, 18 August 2005 07:23

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