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Re: Twincharging, lets make it work
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Sun, 21 August 2005 10:51
 
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| Henn wrote on Sun, 21 August 2005 20:30 |
I'm not a big fan of three throttles and having to control them all. Also I feel that the throttle T3 and the feedback around the SC could be ditched. The SC shouldn't have a problem sucking vacuum and T1 shouldn't bend. This is how ZEs come setup from the factory.
My best idea so far uses one way valve. I haven't thought too much about their reliability but I'm sure something strong enough could be made/sourced.
It will still run into the problem of how to turn the SC off smoothly. I'd be interested in seeing how much of a jerk would be produced if you simply held the SC on for a little longer, to a point where the turbo was producing most of the air volume then just dropped the magnetic clutch.
Or you could throttle the SC input to smoothly lose the SC air input. Setup right this could also negate the need for the SC one way valve.
Hen
PS - ImageShack.us is way cool
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hmm.. three throttles is easy if they have one actuator 
the feedback around SC is to keep it alive and to be able to control its output.. otherwise it is all or nothing, and that will NEVER give a smooth transition.. pulling vac was also a concern for sucking oil thru the bearings....
SC using one way valve such as that will mean it is ALWAYS pushing maximum volume.. and where is the air going to go?
you could blow it off, but thats just wasted air... why not recirculate and reduce pumping losses of SC?
well, say SC is providing 1bar boost,,, for a 2L engine, that measn when you turn off SC, you lose 2L of air per engine rev.... thats a lot of air to loose...
if the SC was providing 1bar of boost and the turbo is also providing 2 bar total.. thats a big drop from 3 bar total boost to 1 bar total boost...
throttling SC to reduce its input is what this is all about
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Corona RT142 | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:35 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:55 |
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tricky | Sun, 21 August 2005 06:18 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:00 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 08:17 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:31 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 08:39 |
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choofa | Thu, 25 August 2005 09:55 |
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toof | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:15 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:36 |
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feral4mr2 | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:50 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:00 |
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improvedae86 | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:51 |
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toof | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:34 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:37 |
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Henn | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:30 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:51 |
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styler | Sun, 21 August 2005 12:44 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 12:48 |
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Henn | Sun, 21 August 2005 23:29 |
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berad | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:14 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:46 |
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Henn | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:31 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:35 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:57 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:24 |
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tricky | Tue, 23 August 2005 04:17 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:54 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:46 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:38 |
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Henn | Tue, 23 August 2005 01:04 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 08:05 |
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tricky | Tue, 23 August 2005 08:33 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 09:00 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 10:07 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 11:07 |
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Corona RT142 | Tue, 23 August 2005 04:01 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 14:03 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 18:20 |
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Henn | Wed, 24 August 2005 00:14 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 03:51 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 05:56 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 05:59 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 07:05 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 11:10 |
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