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Re: PARALLEL Twincharging, lets make it work
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Tue, 23 August 2005 07:56
 
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| VeeP wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 13:57 |
And uhh, im pretty sure just dumping the magnetic clutch is more than capable of giving a smooth transition. . . .
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if you think that then you have completely misunderstood any of my analysis...
a supercharger, because it is positive displacement, MUST move it's internal volume of air per revolution. there is no way around that. when you switch it off, it stops pumping air.
how quickly do you think it will take for a turbo to suddenly produce an extra 8000L of air per minute???
say at 1.6L, 5000rpm, the SC is making 14.7psi (8000L of air/min), and the turbo has just spooled up enough so it can produce 14.7psi of pressure too.... it will be moving almost ZERO volume!!! if it was moving same volume of air as SC, then you would have 44psi!!! (ie 16000L/min) and then turning off SC would drop it from 44psi boost to 14.7psi boost... (from 16000 to 8000L/min)
i fail to see how that is a smooth transition 
and boost can be regarded as absolute pressure, just most people cannot comprehend it as easily, which is why most ECU's have 1atm as 0boost and 0vacuum... i prefer to work in absolute pressure terms, as then you know exactly where you stand in terms of volumes...
yup... who here (or anywhere) has designed a smooth, simple to control, parallel SC/TC system?? if it has been done then all this idle chatter is pointless.. but afaik, it has not been done to the level i would be proud of. we can do a quick and dirty way in an afternoon, but it'd still suck 
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 09:26 |
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AW11 no Jitsu | Sat, 20 August 2005 17:01 |
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oldcorollas | Sat, 20 August 2005 17:03 |
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AW11 no Jitsu | Sat, 20 August 2005 18:07 |
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feral4mr2 | Sun, 21 August 2005 09:59 |
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styler | Sun, 21 August 2005 02:14 |
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brett_celicacoupe | Sun, 21 August 2005 03:43 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 04:01 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:12 |
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wilbo666 | Sun, 21 August 2005 13:05 |
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feral4mr2 | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:07 |
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brett_celicacoupe | Sun, 21 August 2005 04:54 |
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M.W.P. | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:10 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:16 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:19 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:22 |
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Corona RT142 | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:26 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:32 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:37 |
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Corona RT142 | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:35 |
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Corona RT142 | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:37 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:55 |
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tricky | Sun, 21 August 2005 06:18 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:00 |
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tricky | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:42 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 08:17 |
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boofis | Sun, 21 August 2005 06:39 |
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Toobs | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:02 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:31 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 08:39 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 09:37 |
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choofa | Thu, 25 August 2005 09:55 |
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toof | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:15 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:36 |
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improvedae86 | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:49 |
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feral4mr2 | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:50 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:00 |
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improvedae86 | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:51 |
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toof | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:34 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:37 |
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Henn | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:30 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:51 |
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styler | Sun, 21 August 2005 12:44 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 12:48 |
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Henn | Sun, 21 August 2005 23:29 |
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berad | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:14 |
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Merudo | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:30 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:46 |
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Henn | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:31 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:35 |
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Henn | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:51 |
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Merudo | Tue, 23 August 2005 01:28 |
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Lukass | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:05 |
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tricky | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:27 |
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gr8r-x | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:32 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:57 |
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Mr DOHC | Mon, 22 August 2005 09:51 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:24 |
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tricky | Tue, 23 August 2005 04:17 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:54 |
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tricky | Mon, 22 August 2005 09:55 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:46 |
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Lukass | Mon, 22 August 2005 11:59 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:38 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 08:05 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 08:31 |
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tricky | Tue, 23 August 2005 08:33 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 09:00 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 10:07 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 11:07 |
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RobertoX | Tue, 23 August 2005 11:45 |
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VeeP | Tue, 23 August 2005 03:57 |
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Corona RT142 | Tue, 23 August 2005 04:01 |
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Henn | Tue, 23 August 2005 04:04 |
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berad | Tue, 23 August 2005 05:37 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 07:56 |
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nudes | Tue, 23 August 2005 12:38 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 14:03 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 15:51 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 14:17 |
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VeeP | Tue, 23 August 2005 16:43 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 18:20 |
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Henn | Wed, 24 August 2005 00:14 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 03:51 |
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Fr3aK | Wed, 24 August 2005 05:06 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 05:56 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 05:59 |
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Fr3aK | Wed, 24 August 2005 06:49 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 07:05 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 07:55 |
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berad | Wed, 24 August 2005 08:13 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 11:10 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 12:32 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 13:38 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 25 August 2005 06:08 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 25 August 2005 10:27 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 25 August 2005 10:29 |
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choofa | Thu, 25 August 2005 10:46 |
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Mr DOHC | Thu, 25 August 2005 11:06 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 25 August 2005 11:27 |
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