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Re: PARALLEL Twincharging, lets make it work
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Tue, 23 August 2005 08:05
 
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| M.W.P. wrote on Tue, 23 August 2005 12:35 |
I have actually been thinking about twincharging control for a long time now.
My thoughts are that it would probably be easier to use a bleeding valve to remove the pressure instabilites around the SC->Turbo switch over than using the valves that control the SC/Turbo flow.
Ie, create a BOV with electronic control.
This with the control of the turbo wastegate should allow for good enough control to smooth out the boost spike problems.
Itll also allow for the ability to make "enhanced" BOV functions that can sense any aproaching TB closing, reducing backpressure and therefore increasing the chance of earlier spooling.
This would need a very custom ECU, but thats why im interested in this as i can build and program them 
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you mean to vent the air to atmopshere? or vent the SC air to before the SC? venting all the air the SC pumps is wasting the power that it took to actually create it, ie whatever the SC's crank loss is. venting to before the SC is similar to my idea anyway?
i think that it may be better to set soemthing up with mechanical control, but perhaps use an EBC to accurately control the pressure to the mechanical actuators, than to use purely electromechanical actuators.. esp since wategate actuators are easy to get...
then again..
if some of you boffins out there can design a stepper motor controller system to control, that can reference TPS and a couple of pressure measurements (using motorola MAP sensors?).. then we could be in business (not literally  )
how much force can steppers motors exert (against air pressure and return spring pressure)? how fast can they move? and how accurate could they be for a sub-90deg movement?
how easy would it be to have the characteristics programmable??
i do have a motorola MC68HC09 (sp?) programmer they are pretty cheap and easy to reprogram from scratch (if you have a compiler  ) the MS code has been written in both assembler and C already....
hmmmmmmmmmm..... but this takes away from the DIY junkyard approach... but then again... it could start a whole new MS-like community of crazy bastards wanting to run stupidly big turbos on tiny poor little engines 
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wilbo666 | Sun, 21 August 2005 13:05 |
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brett_celicacoupe | Sun, 21 August 2005 04:54 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:16 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:19 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:37 |
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Corona RT142 | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:35 |
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Corona RT142 | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:37 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 05:55 |
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tricky | Sun, 21 August 2005 06:18 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:00 |
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tricky | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:42 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 08:17 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 07:31 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 08:39 |
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kingmick | Sun, 21 August 2005 09:37 |
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choofa | Thu, 25 August 2005 09:55 |
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toof | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:15 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:36 |
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feral4mr2 | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:50 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:00 |
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improvedae86 | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:51 |
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toof | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:34 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 11:37 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 10:51 |
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styler | Sun, 21 August 2005 12:44 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 21 August 2005 12:48 |
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berad | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:14 |
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Merudo | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:30 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:46 |
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Henn | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:31 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:35 |
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Henn | Mon, 22 August 2005 06:51 |
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Merudo | Tue, 23 August 2005 01:28 |
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Lukass | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:05 |
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tricky | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:27 |
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gr8r-x | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:32 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 08:57 |
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Mr DOHC | Mon, 22 August 2005 09:51 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:24 |
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tricky | Tue, 23 August 2005 04:17 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:54 |
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tricky | Mon, 22 August 2005 09:55 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:46 |
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Lukass | Mon, 22 August 2005 11:59 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 22 August 2005 12:38 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 08:05 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 08:31 |
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tricky | Tue, 23 August 2005 08:33 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 09:00 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 10:07 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 11:07 |
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RobertoX | Tue, 23 August 2005 11:45 |
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M.W.P. | Tue, 23 August 2005 12:36 |
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Norbie | Tue, 23 August 2005 02:55 |
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VeeP | Tue, 23 August 2005 03:57 |
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Corona RT142 | Tue, 23 August 2005 04:01 |
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Henn | Tue, 23 August 2005 04:04 |
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berad | Tue, 23 August 2005 05:37 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 07:56 |
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nudes | Tue, 23 August 2005 12:38 |
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RobertoX | Tue, 23 August 2005 12:49 |
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NickZ | Tue, 23 August 2005 13:02 |
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Fr3aK | Tue, 23 August 2005 13:14 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 14:03 |
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M.W.P. | Tue, 23 August 2005 15:03 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 15:51 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 14:17 |
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VeeP | Tue, 23 August 2005 16:43 |
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oldcorollas | Tue, 23 August 2005 18:20 |
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Henn | Wed, 24 August 2005 00:14 |
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NickZ | Wed, 24 August 2005 03:42 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 03:51 |
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Fr3aK | Wed, 24 August 2005 05:06 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 05:56 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 05:59 |
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Fr3aK | Wed, 24 August 2005 06:49 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 07:05 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 07:55 |
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berad | Wed, 24 August 2005 08:13 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 11:10 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 12:32 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 24 August 2005 13:38 |
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doityourself | Wed, 24 August 2005 13:57 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 25 August 2005 06:08 |
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doityourself | Thu, 25 August 2005 09:07 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 25 August 2005 10:27 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 25 August 2005 10:29 |
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choofa | Thu, 25 August 2005 10:46 |
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Mr DOHC | Thu, 25 August 2005 11:06 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 25 August 2005 11:27 |
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