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hotgemini Occasional Poster Location: Brisbane, Queensland Registered: April 2003	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs Sun, 28 August 2005 12:36 It really isn't a lot of weight and the improvement to vehicle dynamics with a well-built rigid cage really shouldn't be underestimated. Using rough figures from my memory of the last cage I helped build I think that the cage as per the first gif I posted should come out at about 50kg including the mounting plates, so whilst its not light its not unworkably heavy. The rigidity of a comprehensive cage really does make a marked difference to how a chassis behaves, back when we ran in GTP despite the fact that we would usually have to work reasonably hard to keep our cars down near the minimum weights we still ran a more comprehensive ROPS because the comparisons between our earlier built cars showed that you got better control of the suspension which more than offset any weight or CoG penalty. So even ignoring that I'm talking fairly high level motorsport, take it back to AGP2002's case, he ends up with a car which has greater potential for good handling *AND* is safer, apart from cost I really think its a win-win. As an aside, one of the cars we ran for a while came with an alloy-cage (allowable as it was log-booked prior to the requirement for steel cages) now we had to run a significantly different spring rate in that car and it still wasn't as nice to drive, in the end the owner modified (note: not permitted under cams rules but thats life) the cage to add much more triangulation to the alloy cage and even that made the car drive much nicer. But other than disagreeing on how much cage is appropriate I congratulate muvro on an excellent post. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	agp2002	Tue, 23 August 2005 00:16
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	takai	Tue, 23 August 2005 00:23
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	bbaacchhyy	Tue, 23 August 2005 00:39
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	agp2002	Tue, 23 August 2005 02:12
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	takai	Tue, 23 August 2005 04:54
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	agp2002	Tue, 23 August 2005 05:23
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	Cool1	Wed, 24 August 2005 10:54
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	Redwarf	Wed, 24 August 2005 11:36
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	Rex_Kelway	Wed, 24 August 2005 15:07
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	agp2002	Wed, 24 August 2005 16:56
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	berad	Fri, 26 August 2005 00:36
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	rthy	Fri, 26 August 2005 03:21
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	MR 1JZ	Fri, 26 August 2005 03:25
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	agp2002	Fri, 26 August 2005 03:35
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	Steve-AE86	Fri, 26 August 2005 10:15
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	kingmick	Sat, 27 August 2005 04:59
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	agp2002	Sat, 27 August 2005 12:49
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 04:00
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 04:41
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 06:42
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	takai	Sun, 28 August 2005 06:47
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 07:50
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	takai	Sun, 28 August 2005 07:54
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 08:06
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	takai	Sun, 28 August 2005 08:25
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 08:30
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	berad	Sun, 28 August 2005 08:31
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 08:34
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	muvro	Sun, 28 August 2005 10:19
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	agp2002	Sun, 28 August 2005 12:13
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 12:36
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	agp2002	Sun, 28 August 2005 12:53
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	muvro	Sun, 28 August 2005 13:29
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	hotgemini	Sun, 28 August 2005 23:10
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	takai	Mon, 29 August 2005 00:11
	Re: Roll Cage Designs - AE86 / KE70 Specs	takai	Mon, 29 August 2005 11:49

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