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pedro2 Newcomer Registered: August 2005	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions Sun, 28 August 2005 15:01 Hi Papercut, thank you for your post my friend, In answer to your problem (SHINE NOT THE SAME), think of the clear as being like glass firstly and how a window repairer fixes the stone chips and takes out the scratches and how would you do this and not make it worse and look at the reflection in a mirror, In all these things there are much the same thing that is to see it shine and how this is done and to keep it this way and how to repair it, To polish glass many year's ago that had gone dole they used talcum powder in a circular motion mixed with a little water to a paste and polished small area's at a time etc that was very slow and now they use diamond powder with other chemicals and cutting agents,either dry powder or paste form and there are many other things that can be added to these formulas like water and oils, to many to mention, NOW if you was doing a spot repair, after you have finished the repair you must lightly rub down the surrounding area over the clean area as well but being very careful not to cut the original clear to much, Use 1200 or higher so that the old surface has a bonding for the new clear coat, make sure that the clear you are using is compatible to the old clear coat for again there is a difference between enamel clear and acrylic clear and the technique is different depending how old the surfaces is as to chemical reaction and grade of paints, always check with the manufacturer of your paints etc, NOW YOU HAVE RUB ALL THE area down around the spot repair and now used the wax and grease remover and not leaving any streaks on all the area and apply your top coats and fanned outside around the spot repair, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE TOP COAT HAS LET SOME OVER SPRAY ONTO THE ORIGINAL SURFACE , You must let it dry and use a tack rag, and only do this when the paint has dried, Now apply clear coats as to direction and thinning and I add a little more thinners to the final clear over coats and this helps the shine up as to buffing up the job, As a rule you can use a pin guadge to measure the dept of the clear but your eyes are the best guadge you can get and you will need to spray past the spot repair to edge of the panel for this is the best way to revive clear coat even, to get an even shine over the full panel, DO NOT PUT CLEAR TO THICK ON ONLY TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, FOR IN THE WRONG CONDITIONS IT CAN CAUSE YOU PROBLEMS 2 FIRM COATS AND FINAL FINE IS ABOUT ENOUGH, THERE ARE MANY TYPES OF CLEAR COATS USE THE BETTER ONE'S RECOMMENDED, NOT THE CHEAP ONE'S Now let it dry fully for a few day's and have a good look at it, if you are not in a work shop and do not have heat lights and are doing it at home it will pay you to let it dry longer the better, for paint leeches it's solvents out for some time and enamel is even longer, AND DO NOT LEAVE IT IS THE FULL SUN AND RAIN KEEP IT IS THE GARAGE OR SHED. NOW TO THE CUTTING BACK, , the surface of paint is very uneven but this is not seen by your eyes at times, but is notices if we have orange peel or runs or module, IF YOU HAVE GOOD SHINE OF THE GUN then you will have little trouble in buffing up your paint job, FIRSTLY, carefully blow the surface down with air, you can wash it with a fine spray not to wet and no hard pressure, NO DETERGENT AT ALL AND WIPE WITH CARE, WITH A VERY SOFT LINT FREE CLOTH ALWAYS, ONLY BUY THE BEST CUTTING COMPOUND MACHINE OR HAND AND LAMBS WOOL BUFFING PADS AND YOU WILL NEED 2 OR 3 SPEED BUFFING MACHINE, YOU WILL NEED A LEAST 2 PADS 3 IS BETTER for you well find that you get a better finish with the following method, CUT IT OUT OF THE SUN, MIX YOUR CUTTING COMPOUND AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND HAVE ANOTHER TIN AVAILABLE AND A PURE HORSE HAIR BRUSH SMALL ONE ABOUT 2 inch will do, SOME cutting compounds can be thinned a little BUT read the instructions first , HAVE SOME SOFT CLOTH WITH YOU AND A FRIEND TO HELP YOU BUFF IT UP, BE CAREFUL WHEN NEAR EDGES AND CURVE'S AND CORNERS ETC, PUT THE NEW PAD TO THE MACHINE, MAKING SURE THAT IT IS TIED CURRECTLY AND THE STRING IS NOT GOING TO RUB THE SURFACE, GO TO YOUR TEST PANEL YOU HAVE AND HAVE YOUR FRIEND DIP THE END OF THE BRUSH INTO THE COMPOUND AND PUT A DAB ON YOU TEST PANEL AND SET YOUR MACHINE TO SLOW AND WORKING IN A CIRCULOR MOTION AND A LITTLE AREA AT A TIME, MOT APPLYING TO MUCH PRESSURE AND WHEN YOU NEED MORE COMPOUND GET HIM TO PUT MORE ON THE AREA IN FRONT OF YOU, NOTE, NOT TO MUCH, AS YOU ARE WORKING YOU WILL FIND A LOT OF DRY PARTICALES ON THE SURFACE AND NOW AND THAN BLOW THEM AWAY WITH AIR, YOUR PAD WILL BECOME CLOGGED AND YOU WILL NEED TO CLEAN IT, NOT WITH WATER. GET A FLAT CLEAN STEEL RULER OR FILE, BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DOING THIS, RUN MACHINE AT SLOW SPEED AND HOLD FILE OR RULER EDGE ON OFF SPIN OF ROTAITION LIGHTLY AGAINST PAD AND PARTICLES WILL BE REMOVE, HAVE A FERM HOLD OF MACHINE AND RULER OR FILE ETC, NOW YOU HAVE THE FEEL TO BUFF YOUR JOB FOLLOW THE ABOVE AND WORK SMALL AREA'S AT A TIME APPLYING COMPOUND AT REGULAR TIMES AND BLOWING DOWN JOB, YOU CAN ALTERNATE THE SPEEDS DEPENDING ON THE LOOK OF SHINE, BUT CLEANING OF THE PADS ARE VERY INPORTAND, AND DO NOT APPLY TO MUCH PRESSURE TO THE JOB FOR THIS WILL BURN YOUR PAINT, FINNALLY, YOU CAN USE YOU CLEAN PAD LEFT OVER FOR FINAL POLISHING OFF, AND WHEN FULLY FINSHED AND YOU ARE HAPPY WITH IT, WASH THE CAR AND WIPE DRY, NOW GO AND HAVE A BEER, BUT KEEP THE CAR IN THE SHED, AFTER ABOUT 2 WKS OR SO WASH IT AGAIN AND DRY OFF RECHECK SURFACE AND APPLY TEFLON CLEAR WITH U V PROTECTION IN IT OVER THE CAR, ALWAYS APPLY POLISHES IN SHADE AND ON COOL SURFACES, ONLY USE GOOD BRANDS AND STICK TO THE SAME ONE ALL THE TIME. BEST OF LUCK Pedro [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Orange peel and other assorted questions	riceburna73	Tue, 24 May 2005 04:06
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	krem	Tue, 24 May 2005 04:33
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	M.W.P.	Tue, 24 May 2005 05:07
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	hickoz_bro	Tue, 24 May 2005 06:51
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	feral4mr2	Tue, 24 May 2005 21:00
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	ChuckLandwehr	Tue, 24 May 2005 05:08
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	riceburna73	Tue, 24 May 2005 08:04
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	AEeightysix	Tue, 24 May 2005 11:37
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	AEeightysix	Tue, 24 May 2005 11:38
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	AEeightysix	Tue, 24 May 2005 11:39
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	sxr01r	Tue, 24 May 2005 16:55
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	riceburna73	Wed, 25 May 2005 01:30
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	AEeightysix	Wed, 25 May 2005 03:26
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Tarkers	Tue, 24 May 2005 14:51
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	DRFT - 86	Wed, 25 May 2005 00:41
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	boofis	Wed, 25 May 2005 01:41
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	bantech	Wed, 25 May 2005 02:41
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	styler	Wed, 25 May 2005 02:51
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	bantech	Wed, 25 May 2005 03:23
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Major Clod	Wed, 25 May 2005 03:41
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	krem	Wed, 25 May 2005 06:25
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Dale_ta22	Wed, 25 May 2005 07:54
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	riceburna73	Wed, 25 May 2005 08:36
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	krem	Thu, 26 May 2005 03:40
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	cannonball	Thu, 26 May 2005 04:33
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	krem	Fri, 27 May 2005 08:08
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	riceburna73	Tue, 14 June 2005 03:28
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Dale_ta22	Tue, 14 June 2005 09:45
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	riceburna73	Tue, 14 June 2005 11:09
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Dale_ta22	Wed, 15 June 2005 02:14
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	toof	Tue, 14 June 2005 12:00
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	RA28	Tue, 14 June 2005 13:43
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	RA28	Wed, 15 June 2005 03:27
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	riceburna73	Wed, 15 June 2005 05:52
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Dale_ta22	Wed, 15 June 2005 07:05
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	RA28	Wed, 15 June 2005 06:32
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	boofis	Wed, 15 June 2005 06:40
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	RA28	Wed, 15 June 2005 07:02
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	papercut	Mon, 22 August 2005 09:12
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	papercut	Sun, 28 August 2005 01:22
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Dale_ta22	Mon, 22 August 2005 12:16
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	papercut	Mon, 22 August 2005 23:04
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Dale_ta22	Tue, 23 August 2005 00:58
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	Leighp	Thu, 25 August 2005 04:31
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	pedro2	Sat, 27 August 2005 16:52
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	oldcorollas	Sat, 27 August 2005 18:10
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	pedro2	Sun, 28 August 2005 15:01
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	papercut	Sun, 28 August 2005 23:08
	Re: Orange peel and other assorted questions	hurricane	Mon, 29 August 2005 11:44

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