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Re: XR6 Turbo (rant)	Wed, 05 February 2003 03:01

Lets just compare the new 600cc 13000RPM GSXR engine to the Ford 302 then, shall we? For the unwashed masses (non Toyota crowd) I have owned/raced/or at least driven most types of Toyota sports vehicles from the late 70's versions to the early 2000's. My personal favorite chassis of ALL cars I have driven (haven't got into a 928 yet) is the RA65GTS Celica. I drove the damn wheels off that car and it did everything I asked it to. I compare all new vehicles (any MFGR) to my old/loved Toyotas, since I figure that with all the engineering available, they should at LEAST be able to compare, if not beat them. Nope. I happen to like the 22RE engine, since I had one and it worked quite well for me. As to revving - I absolutely hate being required to rev the snot out of an engine to get going. Might be nice, but I don't have access to 6 speed sequential gearboxes either. Damn. So my 22R I tuned for 3500-5500 RPM, and drove it in the 4000-5000 range when driving hard. The "truck" heavy flywheel helped the launches. As to the 1/2JZs - people, should engineers NOT be able to beat the technology (therefore performance) of a 10 year old design? Jeeez billy! The Jags in the 60's had DOHC twincams that were approaching 100HP/L.... [Report message to a moderator]

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Read Message XR6 Turbo (rant) CrAiGzEE Mon, 03 February 2003 09:05
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Re: XR6 Turbo (rant) Rolla Boy Mon, 03 February 2003 10:46
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