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Re: Petrol Prices Wed, 07 September 2005 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Norbie wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 15:06

bubbles wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 14:51

and to back it up (sad, very sad)

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/watercar/h20ca r2.htm

LOL! The pseudo-science BS in that article makes me chortle.

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This engine was mounted on a lab bench in a garage area, with the door open for ventilation. On the floor were thirteen half-gallon containers linked together with tubes, all connected to a central, larger tube that ran directly to the carburetor of the motor.

In the containers was ordinary water plus an electrolyte (i.e., some type of salt).

When a piece of metal alloy was dropped into the electrolyte mixture, hydrogen instantly began to form at an amazing rate. The hydrogen gas traveled to a main tube, and from there straight to the carburetor.

Anyone with a year-12 level understanding of chemistry can see the energy is coming from converting a substance at a high energy level (the piece of alloy) to a lower energy level (oxidised metal). And where did that piece of alloy come from? Oh that's right, massive smelters which use eleventy billion watts of electricity to convert ore into metal. Rolling Eyes

The rest of the article is just as bad from the parts I skimmed over, but a fundamental understanding of the laws of thermodynamics is enough to convince anyone that you can't get energy out of water. The device mentioned in the article above uses water as part of a chemical reaction, but none of the energy actually comes from water.



it's easy to make a shiteload of hydrogen by putting aluminium into concentrated caustic soda solution (ie NaOH.. a sort of salt Wink )

we used to make little rockety things with coke bottles and the like...

NaOH aint free, aluminium uses truckloads of electricity.. you could use iron i spose, but what a shitty way to do it.


ahh bubbles Wink
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