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Big Don Occasional Poster Location: Melbourne Registered: June 2005	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car' Sat, 10 September 2005 00:13 Well it's been a while since I put any news up here so I figured I'd drop a line and let everyone know what was happening. well had great fun at calder last month, but unfortunately the 1jz decided that it'd had enough of Mr shin and I. i.e. it appears we've smashed a piston, either way that motor is scrap now. Picked up another 1jz yesterday morning and with any luck the ute might actually make it back on the road within the week, so assuming I don't kill this engine before then i'll be back out at calder this month. Ooh well hopefully this engine might have some more of that elusive torque, Shin reckons the other one wasn't really happy and wasn't pulling as hard and she oughta anyway. just in response to camzh yeh the 1J definately makes a nice everyday engine, and for all it's faults I'm still tipping it as stronger/more reliable/more powerful than the old 250 xflow. As for the manual side of things, yeh manuals can be fun, but the "manualized auto" is actually pretty awesome to, as for sticking with petrol, well worst case senario 2K for gas conversion but it depends how much driving you do, I personally clock up 2000+k's per week (don't ask me how, I used to do over 2500 when I was going to bairnsdale) so if you start averaging about 8k's to the litre and paying 55c instead of $1.35 per litre the 2K for gas becomes and investment lol I'm saving $200 per week working on the above figures (2.5 months to pay of your gas system lol 8<) anyway happy drifting all look forward to seeing you at calder Big Don [Report message to a moderator]

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	Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sat, 07 May 2005 12:20
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sat, 07 May 2005 12:27
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Alchemist	Sat, 07 May 2005 12:48
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	NeoNasty	Sat, 07 May 2005 12:52
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sat, 07 May 2005 12:54
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	NeoNasty	Sat, 07 May 2005 14:27
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrsmart	Sat, 07 May 2005 12:57
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sat, 07 May 2005 13:00
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sun, 08 May 2005 02:12
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	BlackSupra	Sun, 08 May 2005 02:16
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	ae86drift	Sun, 08 May 2005 02:43
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4a-c	Sun, 08 May 2005 03:12
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Indi	Fri, 20 May 2005 04:18
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	MX73_drifter	Sun, 08 May 2005 04:27
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sun, 08 May 2005 11:59
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Tue, 10 May 2005 14:47
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4agte	Wed, 11 May 2005 01:57
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	RobST162	Wed, 11 May 2005 02:33
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Wed, 11 May 2005 15:15
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mikes86	Thu, 12 May 2005 11:40
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4agte	Thu, 12 May 2005 14:59
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Thu, 12 May 2005 15:32
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	September_Squall	Fri, 13 May 2005 05:31
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	HyDrA	Fri, 13 May 2005 07:59
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sat, 14 May 2005 11:55
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	KOFFEE-BLACK	Sun, 15 May 2005 02:31
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	FASTFOO	Tue, 17 May 2005 15:06
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Grega	Fri, 20 May 2005 22:03
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Fri, 20 May 2005 22:48
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Tue, 24 May 2005 14:35
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Tue, 24 May 2005 14:37
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Allan	Wed, 25 May 2005 13:44
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	ViPeR_NiPPleX	Thu, 26 May 2005 05:02
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Grega	Thu, 26 May 2005 06:59
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Thu, 26 May 2005 07:19
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4DaDrift	Thu, 26 May 2005 16:14
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	20VBTSECA	Fri, 27 May 2005 14:41
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Thu, 02 June 2005 15:40
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Thu, 02 June 2005 15:44
	Don goes drifting - beware, barnyard creatures!	mrshin	Thu, 02 June 2005 15:50
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Tue, 07 June 2005 15:10
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Tue, 07 June 2005 15:11
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Thu, 09 June 2005 13:06
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4agte	Thu, 09 June 2005 14:01
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	RobST162	Thu, 09 June 2005 14:34
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	ViPeR_NiPPleX	Fri, 10 June 2005 02:50
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sat, 11 June 2005 12:21
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4agte	Sat, 11 June 2005 13:41
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	TWN-CAM	Tue, 14 June 2005 02:21
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Grega	Tue, 14 June 2005 07:19
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Tue, 14 June 2005 10:34
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Tue, 14 June 2005 13:19
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Tue, 14 June 2005 14:35
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Tue, 14 June 2005 15:25
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	RB30lover	Sun, 07 August 2005 13:20
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Grega	Tue, 14 June 2005 20:59
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Thu, 16 June 2005 09:07
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	BradW	Sun, 03 July 2005 10:48
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Sun, 03 July 2005 20:49
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Sun, 14 August 2005 15:41
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	boofis	Wed, 15 June 2005 04:38
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Wed, 15 June 2005 04:46
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	boofis	Wed, 15 June 2005 05:21
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	smashed_wombat	Wed, 15 June 2005 07:49
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	hokey	Thu, 16 June 2005 11:41
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	hokey	Thu, 16 June 2005 11:42
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 16 June 2005 13:16
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Thu, 16 June 2005 14:48
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	hokey	Fri, 17 June 2005 00:07
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Fri, 17 June 2005 03:45
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Fri, 17 June 2005 03:46
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Grega	Thu, 16 June 2005 20:14
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	hokey	Fri, 17 June 2005 06:20
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Fri, 17 June 2005 12:37
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	September_Squall	Fri, 17 June 2005 15:30
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Fri, 17 June 2005 15:37
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Fri, 17 June 2005 15:38
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Fri, 24 June 2005 00:26
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	StockAE86	Fri, 24 June 2005 02:35
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Wed, 29 June 2005 11:49
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Rallystanza	Thu, 30 June 2005 03:40
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 30 June 2005 05:19
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	FASTFOO	Wed, 06 July 2005 13:47
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	boofis	Thu, 07 July 2005 09:45
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	September_Squall	Mon, 25 July 2005 05:32
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	boofis	Tue, 26 July 2005 10:32
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Tue, 26 July 2005 11:22
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Tue, 26 July 2005 11:33
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 28 July 2005 03:58
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sun, 10 July 2005 13:58
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Sun, 10 July 2005 19:30
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	WantaTurbo	Mon, 11 July 2005 00:48
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Mon, 11 July 2005 08:14
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	WantaTurbo	Tue, 12 July 2005 01:23
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Fri, 15 July 2005 08:52
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Sun, 17 July 2005 10:58
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Tue, 19 July 2005 20:44
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	MR 1JZ	Tue, 19 July 2005 23:26
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Wed, 20 July 2005 12:45
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4agte	Wed, 20 July 2005 21:43
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 21 July 2005 06:15
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	MR 1JZ	Thu, 21 July 2005 06:18
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Thu, 21 July 2005 12:17
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Mookie	Thu, 21 July 2005 12:28
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 21 July 2005 21:56
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	boofis	Thu, 21 July 2005 22:51
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 21 July 2005 23:35
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Rallystanza	Fri, 22 July 2005 00:48
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Fri, 22 July 2005 02:21
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Fri, 22 July 2005 04:49
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	rollaboi	Sat, 23 July 2005 06:32
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Sun, 24 July 2005 23:51
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Sun, 24 July 2005 23:56
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	RB30lover	Sun, 07 August 2005 13:27
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Mon, 08 August 2005 00:25
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	3S-GE_Man	Mon, 08 August 2005 14:58
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	HyDrA	Mon, 25 July 2005 00:18
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	HyDrA	Mon, 25 July 2005 00:59
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	lobby69	Mon, 25 July 2005 03:24
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Mon, 25 July 2005 12:42
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	ViPeR_NiPPleX	Tue, 26 July 2005 04:00
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Tue, 26 July 2005 06:04
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4agte	Tue, 26 July 2005 10:22
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	HyDrA	Thu, 28 July 2005 08:30
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Sp33dY	Thu, 28 July 2005 09:56
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 28 July 2005 11:26
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 28 July 2005 11:29
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Sp33dY	Fri, 29 July 2005 06:29
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Fri, 29 July 2005 13:24
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	4agte	Fri, 29 July 2005 14:06
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	September_Squall	Mon, 01 August 2005 14:26
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	boofis	Thu, 04 August 2005 09:22
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	hokey	Thu, 04 August 2005 11:10
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Thu, 04 August 2005 14:33
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	cannonball	Mon, 08 August 2005 01:45
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Mon, 08 August 2005 14:40
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Mon, 08 August 2005 14:49
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Mon, 08 August 2005 14:52
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	rob_RA40	Tue, 09 August 2005 04:40
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	3S-GE_Man	Mon, 08 August 2005 15:13
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Clown	Mon, 08 August 2005 16:40
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	HyDrA	Tue, 09 August 2005 00:38
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Corona RT142	Tue, 09 August 2005 04:41
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	MR 1JZ	Tue, 09 August 2005 06:01
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Tue, 09 August 2005 14:11
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	MR 1JZ	Tue, 09 August 2005 14:31
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Wed, 17 August 2005 14:03
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	deankdx	Fri, 19 August 2005 23:37
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	sv_i	Tue, 30 August 2005 01:20
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	mrshin	Wed, 31 August 2005 06:29
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	hokey	Wed, 31 August 2005 10:18
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	ke203sge	Wed, 31 August 2005 11:55
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Wed, 31 August 2005 13:00
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	CamZH	Tue, 06 September 2005 01:22
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Sat, 10 September 2005 00:13
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	CamZH	Sun, 11 September 2005 03:09
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	boofis	Sat, 10 September 2005 23:28
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Sun, 11 September 2005 12:48
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	deankdx	Tue, 15 November 2005 08:23
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	TWN-CAM	Mon, 21 November 2005 08:14
	Re: Ozzie Drift - or - 'you can't put a bloody Jap motor in a REAL car'	Big Don	Wed, 30 November 2005 08:36

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