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Re: Petrol Prices Sun, 11 September 2005 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
mynameisrodney wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 23:24

slowing down the elctron would be taking energy out of it. this energy would have to go somewhere and so would cause a temp rise not a temp drop to the surroundings.


reeeeaallly???

mynameisrodney wrote:

you are very quick to dismis other people as stupid. why dont you step back and listen to what you are saying.

mynameisrodney wrote:

i think anyone who tells you we are NOT running out of fossil fuels is the same type of conspiricy theorist that wraps their head in alfoil so the cia doesnt steal their thoughts.

No, I never implied that, but you were the first to dismiss and imply that non-fossil-fuel theories as conspiracy theories, and people that believe in them are lunatics, so I think you are the one that should step back and listen to what you are saying urself!

mynameisrodney wrote:


there is only a finite amount of fossil fuels on the planet. the rate at which they are formed is extremely slow, much slower than the rate at which we use them. so therefor, we are using it up, whether it takes 10 years or 10,000 it is still a non-renewable resource and will eventually run out.

also just because you dont understand or dont agree with a theory doesnt make me a 'slave'.
your views are very outdated. eg viewing petroleum as a blank cheque and not beleiving in CoE. calling me a slave for believing in the accepted truth is pretty much like saying "no, the world is flat. you're all a bunch of sheep".


This is just a theory, and it has been proven that oil made of Hydrocarbons (HCOs) can be reproduced, HCO occurs in nature everywhere, it may cost a lot to produce by human, but near the middle of earth where there's abundance amount of heat and pressure... who knows? We could argue the time it takes to produce oil, but that doesn't really matter, there could in fact be huge reservoirs of oil beneath the earth, which no-one is letting us about, same as the diamond monopoly situation where the material is so abundance, but are controlled by rich bastards, fossil fuel may actually not be made by fossil at all, just a thought, and certainly nothing to be dismissed too easily!

mynameisrodney wrote:


with AC units, this is an idea i'm not stating it as fact.
producing heat is easy you convert electrical/chemical, or some other form of energy into heat energy and so the energy supplied is equal to the energy gained as heat (with small losses along the way). cooling is very different, you have to take energy away from something. usually this works by tranferring heat energy to something else (eg. the coils on the back of fridges which get hot). so using your example, your AC unit might take 2.5 kW to tranfer this energy away from what it was cooling, and the amount of energy transfered by the unit is 7.5kW.


I think you are fairly close, and this system is called a "heat-pump", but is set up in a very inefficient manner (taking heat from a not-so-hot room, and dumping it into a "hotter" room)
What if you do it the other way around? ie. Taking heat from a very hot place, and dumping it into a very cold place?

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