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Re: Petrol Prices Sun, 11 September 2005 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
mynameisrodney wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 00:15

86tt wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 23:56

mynameisrodney wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 23:24

slowing down the elctron would be taking energy out of it. this energy would have to go somewhere and so would cause a temp rise not a temp drop to the surroundings.


reeeeaallly???



yes really. if the electron cooled down, and its surroundings cooled down, and nothing heated up, this would contradict CoE as energy has apparently dissapeared.



Hi Chris, not having a good at ya, especially that you seems to be half interested, I think you misunderstand my suggestion, but when I suggest to slow down the electron, I mean slowing it down by magnetic or mechanical force, which will extract energy from the atom, but the electron can't just stop spinning, so this energy must be replenished, and will be taken from the surrounding, so would this cool the surrounding? Or heat the surrounding?


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there could in fact be huge reservoirs of oil beneath the earth

that is very possible, and i never said otherwise, what i said was that it would still run out eventually.

Yes, eventually, but I'm suggesting there's way way way more oil down there that will last us for centuries to come

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but near the middle of earth where there's abundance amount of heat and pressure

the deeper you go, the less hydrogen. mantle is mainly iron magnesium and silicon from memory.
Actually I don't remember what's down there, but the pressure and heat down there is unimaginable, who knows what chemical, nuclear or other reaction can occur down there with the right pressure and heat? If uranium etc. can be mined, I assume anything else can be created down there, the only reason why so many things aren't available in nature is because it's unstable in the atmosphere.


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What if you do it the other way around? ie. Taking heat from a very hot place, and dumping it into a very cold place?

as the two rooms are far out of thermal equilibrium the transfer would happen a lot more quickly, and probably more efficiently, but i am unsure of your point.



So from a rough estimate, if a system is specially designed to pump heat from a very hot place to a very cold place, you would expect it will produce (EDIT: I should use the word "pump" for now instead of produce) WAY more than 7.5kW of heat from 2.5kW inputted right? Any rough estimate on the heat outputted? (EDIT: I should use the word "pump" here again instead of outputted)

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