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Re: Petrol Prices
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Mon, 12 September 2005 03:34
 
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| 86tt wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 00:08 |
| mynameisrodney wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 00:15 |
| 86tt wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 23:56 |
| mynameisrodney wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 23:24 |
slowing down the elctron would be taking energy out of it. this energy would have to go somewhere and so would cause a temp rise not a temp drop to the surroundings.
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reeeeaallly???
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yes really. if the electron cooled down, and its surroundings cooled down, and nothing heated up, this would contradict CoE as energy has apparently dissapeared.
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Hi Chris, not having a good at ya, especially that you seems to be half interested, I think you misunderstand my suggestion, but when I suggest to slow down the electron, I mean slowing it down by magnetic or mechanical force, which will extract energy from the atom, but the electron can't just stop spinning, so this energy must be replenished, and will be taken from the surrounding, so would this cool the surrounding? Or heat the surrounding?
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Dude you are seriously suffering from not viewing the 'overall' system in place. Let's say you use some form of magnetic force to slow the electron down (not saying that this will actually work), the energy that transfers from the electron (by it slowing down) is then used to distort the magnetic field that you used to slow the electron down. You have to look at the overall picture.
| 86tt wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 00:08 |
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there could in fact be huge reservoirs of oil beneath the earth
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that is very possible, and i never said otherwise, what i said was that it would still run out eventually.
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Yes, eventually, but I'm suggesting there's way way way more oil down there that will last us for centuries to come
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but near the middle of earth where there's abundance amount of heat and pressure
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the deeper you go, the less hydrogen. mantle is mainly iron magnesium and silicon from memory.
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Actually I don't remember what's down there, but the pressure and heat down there is unimaginable, who knows what chemical, nuclear or other reaction can occur down there with the right pressure and heat? If uranium etc. can be mined, I assume anything else can be created down there, the only reason why so many things aren't available in nature is because it's unstable in the atmosphere.
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The earth is not a nuclear reactor, and as such, does not create uranium and other materials by nuclear fusion. The earth has a limited amount of materials that have gathered over time from explosions of other stars, asteroids, other planets etc that occured billions of years ago. Sorry to break it to you but the earth has limited amounts of material available to it.
| 86tt wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 00:08 |
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What if you do it the other way around? ie. Taking heat from a very hot place, and dumping it into a very cold place?
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as the two rooms are far out of thermal equilibrium the transfer would happen a lot more quickly, and probably more efficiently, but i am unsure of your point.
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So from a rough estimate, if a system is specially designed to pump heat from a very hot place to a very cold place, you would expect it will produce WAY more than 7.5kW of heat from 2.5kW inputted right? Any rough estimate on the heat outputted?
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The fact is, the system is only 'pumping' heat, not generating heat energy, so your point as to how it could be dis-obeying conservation of energy laws is completely invalid.
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