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Re: Petrol Prices Mon, 12 September 2005 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
86tt wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 16:31

RWDboy wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 13:34


blah blah blah


#1, I personally imagine the magnetic force of the atom to be so great that it will overcome the force slowing it down thus looking for other ways of absorbing energy by other means, I'm just trying to analysis this problem, because I want to know if an electron can be slowed down without removing the heat energy around it (ie. freezing it until absolute zero) and if yes, what will happen etc. (Because I was once asked if the electron around the atom can be stopped, because if the answer is no, that would mean there's infinite amount of energy in the atom, but now I think of it, if an atom is slowed, it must suck energy out from somewhere else, which I think heat energy is the first to suffer, but just say you have a place full of heat energy that never runs out? Or if an atom really do have infinite energy, that would mean the electron will not stop, nor slow down, nor will it suck energy from the surrounding etc.)

#2, When you say the world have limited amounts of material I would certainly disagree, because the amount of mass underneath the earth's crust is unimaginable, as the pressure of exerted onto it by itself is so huge, and the nearer to the centre, although the heat is so great, but are believed to be solid, so how much matter is squashed under the earth? And if that matter is released into normal atmosphere pressure via earthquake etc. how much volume will it take up? Limited amounts of material? I don't think so... (Also I wasn't suggesting the earth is a nuclear reactor, and I don't think we know enough about nuclear reaction, but I'm suggesting under the enormous pressure and heat inside the earth, who knows what chemical, nuclear or other unknown reaction can occur? Also have a look at my link...)



So there's 2 different points
* Is there nuclear reaction beneath the earth?
* even if there's no nuclear reaction, is fossil fuel really fossil fuel??


#3, I think you didn't get it, the subject that you're refering to wasn't supposed to be a discussion about the conservation of energy, it was a whole different subject all together, read it again...



bubbles???


#1. dude you really misunderstand how atoms work. electrons are particle/waves of mass/energy.. the "electron" slows down and speeds up all the time, respctively giving off and absorbing energy from it's surroundings.

according to scientists that bubbles did not believe in, there is a finite amount of energy in the universe, etc etc....
you also need to think about enthalpy and entropy.. please search.

#2 the amount of material the earth is made of is unimaginable/infinite? well, it's been calculated. if you can't imagine it, you need a better imagination Razz


ffs, there are nuclear fission reactions on the surface of the earth.

and as for catalysts.. a catalyst is a material that lowers the activation energy of a reaction, and is not consumed by the process. the activation energy that allows a reaction to proceed is usually in the form of heat.

ie, if you heat up petrol and air enough, it will spontaneously ignite. if you use pure oxygen, the activation energy decreases. if you use a catalyst the activation energy/spontaneous ignition temperature is reduced further.

as for electrons stopping.. you can slow an electron by removing energy from the atom... near absolute zero they have been measured to slow down (but the mere act of observation introduces energy Wink )
the combination of strong and weak nuclear forces makes it very difficult for an atom to collapse.. i used to think that is how black holes formed... by electrons finally callapsing into the nucleus... but anyway..


what else...
Hydrocarbons are HC's, not HCO's

oil made by humans requires heat/electricity that is typically produced by burning oil/gas/coal to make it.... duh...


diamonds are a cunt to mine, and good ones are nowhere near as common as shit ones... diamod is used for many many things.... cutting blades, knife sharpeners etc etc.. big problem is that certain countries with large diamod deposits just happen to have a fucked military situation.

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fossil fuel may actually not be made by fossil at all, just a thought, and certainly nothing to be dismissed too easily!


Laughing i'm smart....S M R T!!! Razz

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What if you do it the other way around? ie. Taking heat from a very hot place, and dumping it into a very cold place?

yes, because that is what you do with air conditioners... Rolling Eyes
did you read what you wrote??
why the fuck would you want to.. in summer.. take heat from outside and put it into a room.... you could just open a window Razz

that article is a crock of shit... references? actual scientific data?

anyway... maybe you have been talking to bubbles too ften, but your comments smack too much of "they" and "them" as tho there is a world conspiracy.... get over it Razz

Cya, Stewart
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