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Location: Dubbo
Registered: April 2005
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Re: time behind the wheel = experience = good driver???
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Mon, 12 September 2005 23:25
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white86 wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 20:57 |
I don't quite understand what key point that I'm missing. The first 3 parts of your good driver equation all fall under my "raw skills" term.
I think your argument about the false sense of confidence instilled by driver training is flawed. Do you think that driver training is sticking young people on a race track and saying "this is how you go fast"? It involves many aspects which aim to both increase basic skills, as well as educate on the REAL effects of speed etc on a car.
It is narrow-minded to think that "hoons" will use the driver training to create even more dangerous situations on the road. You're merely subscribing to a stereotype that "hoons" are irresponsible.
If you agree that there is an attitude problem at the centre of this debate, how do you propose to change these attitudes? Personally, the things that effect my attitudes the most are things that happen in front of my eyes. I'd learn more from driver training than being banned from driving a certain car any day.
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I interpreted raw skills as just the skill to hold on to the car at/near the limit, and nothing to do with situational awareness that would make u a good driver on the road, and a good racer on the track.
I know driver training isn't teaching them to go fast, it does however greatly improve a drivers understanding of the limits of their car and themselves, and if a driver is already inclined to push their car hard, with the knowledge of how hard they can push (in controlled conditions) they could very well push their car to the limit on the road, which is more dangerous then before. Cause at the limit of adhesion the driver has no control over where the car is going in the next few meters, it is set in concrete through the physics of the car and inertia.
I do believe that it is the attitude that is the problem, and i 100% agree that seeing something will change it more then saying 'no high power cars'
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white86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 09:38 |
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draven | Mon, 12 September 2005 09:48 |
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white86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 10:00 |
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thechuckster | Mon, 12 September 2005 11:19 |
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white86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 11:40 |
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white86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 09:57 |
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draven | Mon, 12 September 2005 09:59 |
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mynameisrodney | Mon, 12 September 2005 10:09 |
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white86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 10:10 |
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mynameisrodney | Mon, 12 September 2005 10:13 |
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lang | Mon, 12 September 2005 10:14 |
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white86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 10:15 |
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Roundy | Mon, 12 September 2005 10:38 |
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white86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 10:57 |
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Shraka | Mon, 12 September 2005 12:22 |
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Dorio86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 22:49 |
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illuminatus | Mon, 12 September 2005 23:36 |
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Dorio86 | Mon, 12 September 2005 23:43 |
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illuminatus | Tue, 13 September 2005 01:18 |
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Dorio86 | Tue, 13 September 2005 01:52 |
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ke382TG | Tue, 13 September 2005 00:35 |
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white86 | Tue, 13 September 2005 13:51 |
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dimmy77_03 | Tue, 13 September 2005 13:57 |
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kingmick | Tue, 13 September 2005 21:50 |
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spectral | Thu, 15 September 2005 05:55 |
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Shraka | Thu, 15 September 2005 06:05 |
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spectral | Thu, 15 September 2005 06:20 |
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Classique71 | Thu, 15 September 2005 11:37 |
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illuminatus | Thu, 15 September 2005 23:32 |
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4DaDrift | Sat, 17 September 2005 09:57 |
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river | Sat, 17 September 2005 11:46 |
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4DaDrift | Sun, 18 September 2005 17:25 |
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tom210 | Thu, 15 September 2005 22:56 |
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4DaDrift | Sun, 18 September 2005 17:30 |
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Paranoid Android | Sun, 18 September 2005 15:27 |
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TougeVitz | Sun, 18 September 2005 16:51 |
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Paranoid Android | Sun, 18 September 2005 17:20 |
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mynameisrodney | Sun, 18 September 2005 23:19 |
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Corona RT142 | Mon, 19 September 2005 00:02 |
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mynameisrodney | Mon, 19 September 2005 00:06 |
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Corona RT142 | Mon, 19 September 2005 00:35 |
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