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Re: Petrol Prices

Wed, 14 September 2005 15:35

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Whilst the amount may unimaginable, it's still a finite number, and hence there is a limit to the amount of energy available for use.

???? u're saying finite number of materials = limit amount of energy? What's that got to do with it, day after day you get never ending supply of light and heat energy from the sun, where do they end up at?

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Reducing water into it's constituent atoms may be a chemical reaction, but if a metal is consumed in the process then the metal isn't a catalyst - it's a reactant. I think you might be confused as to the definition of a catalyst.

who said a metal is consumed? I said I've heard 2 rumours, 1) a metal catalyst can help to break down H & O atoms of water and 2) a resonance frequency can break the bond of thined out water molecules, where did I mention about metal being consumed in the reaction??

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For instance, if you were to use a battery to electrolise water, then the electrodes within the battery are consumed in the reaction.

electrodes are consumed? I think u're losted, they're aren't consumed, they were removed but are re-deposited

mynameisrodney: I understand the graph that you've shown, but that only represent one certain method of breaking down the water molecule, what do you think about the resonance frequency method? Over the years, there's been many cases of "things breaking" at the right frequency using low amount of energy...

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you actually said....
86tt wrote on Tue, 13 September 2005 16:03

I think you are fairly close, and this system is called a "heat-pump", but is set up in a very inefficient manner (taking heat from a not-so-hot room, and dumping it into a "hotter" room)
What if you do it the other way around? ie. Taking heat from a very hot place, and dumping it into a very cold place?

taking heat from a very hot place and putting it in a very cold place is usualyl called either:
a) a radiator on a car
or b) opening a window.

This mynameisrodney had already replied, saying that the reaction will complete much easier and quicker, if a conventional air condition can produce 3x the heating/cooling, this will suggest doing it the other way will produce much more than 3x heating? And don't have ur mind stuck on "air-conditioning", it's got nothing to do with it, I'm just trying to discuss the "system"...

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AEC Hydrogen Technology
AEC owns a metallurgic formulation which separates hydrogen from water at low cost, requiring no electrical energy or external input, and without utilizing or producing any hazardous waste materials. AEC's process involves chemical reactions between a proprietary metal alloy mix and the liquid solution. These metals are plentiful, stable in cost and produce effective, highly purified hydrogen utilizing a catalytic process.

also stumbled across this website, believe it or not believe it, it's your choice, a claim from a commercial company, do they have any advantages for a false claim? I don't know...
(this supports the catalyst theory!)
http://www.cleanwatts.com/technology/default.asp

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