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Re: Petrol Prices Wed, 14 September 2005 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
quotes from first site, first paragraph.
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catalytic process

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These metals are plentiful


it would apear that somebody is pulling somebody elses leg. if this really is a catalytic process, then why are they worried how much metal there is? in a catalytic process NONE of the catalyst is used so all they would need is enough to seup their devices.

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electrodes are consumed? I think u're losted, they're aren't consumed, they were removed but are re-deposited

One electode gets smaller, one gets bigger, but the new arrangement of electrodes will have less chemical potential energy than before you began so energy is still used. That energy comes from the electrode which got smaller.

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???? u're saying finite number of materials = limit amount of energy? What's that got to do with it, day after day you get never ending supply of light and heat energy from the sun, where do they end up at?

umm, no you dont. Razz . the amount of energy from the sun while being incomprehensibly large, is still finite. Go look something up on the lifecycle of stars.


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mynameisrodney: I understand the graph that you've shown, but that only represent one certain method of breaking down the water molecule, what do you think about the resonance frequency method? Over the years, there's been many cases of "things breaking" at the right frequency using low amount of energy...


resonant frequency stuff is interesting, i agree. However the electrons spin around the nucleus of the atom so fast that an extremely high frequency would need to be used, thus using high amounts of energy (which you would find is more than that gained from burning the hydrogen).

to get hydrogen from water we will always need to supply AT LEAST the amount of energy we get from burning it. but this does not mean it is unfeasable. to make it worthwhile we would need to use energy from a sourcee that we did not create and would not use (otherwise we are just using energy to make less energy Razz ). An example of such a source is radioactive waste. it contains large amounts of energy but we just bury it because we cant do anything with it. if we could use that to produce hydrogen from water, we would not only be gaining hydrogen, but making nuclear power cleaner.

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