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white86 Regular Location: Brisbane Registered: May 2004	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign ! Wed, 21 September 2005 03:24 I'm interested in the fact that he got a letter in the mail. He could use the Freedom of Information act to request all the relevant information about the cop that issued the fine, why he was there etc. I find it strange that they can send fines in the mail without photographic proof as is the case with red light and speed cameras. If it ends up in court, make sure your friend is 100% adamant that he DEFINATELY stopped at the stop sign, and is unfaltering in this opinion. Then it is the cops word against his, and depending on the guys record, it is more likely to go his way. Can't stress the importance of being 100% sure he stopped enough. A friend of mine just took a speeding fine to court. It was a case of a cop booking him by "follow speed". Despite the cop claiming he followed my friend for 300m at a constant distance (even though the cop's map only showed a distance of about 75m, including a corner and 3 lane changes, during which he had to accelerate from a stand still to even match my friends speed), my friend was found guilty. This was because the prosecution bombarded him with questions regarding his speed, rewording the question "are you sure you were doing 60?" in about 20 different ways. After saying "no" everytime, my friend eventually said "well, maybe I was going 61 or 62". The judge's opinion was that he had confessed to speeding (at 62km/h) so he may as well have been doing the 75km/h that the cop claimed. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Les	Wed, 21 September 2005 01:37
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Corona RT142	Wed, 21 September 2005 01:39
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Les	Wed, 21 September 2005 01:49
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Corona RT142	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:00
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	SIMDOG	Wed, 21 September 2005 01:48
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	TougeVitz	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:07
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	hamgatan	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:18
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Shraka	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:32
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Indi	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:38
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	cannonball	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:41
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Indi	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:45
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	cannonball	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:50
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Indi	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:54
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	SEXY 16	Wed, 21 September 2005 02:59
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	white86	Wed, 21 September 2005 03:24
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	rob_RA40	Wed, 21 September 2005 04:19
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	unforgiven	Wed, 21 September 2005 03:25
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	EvilJack	Wed, 21 September 2005 03:28
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Les	Wed, 21 September 2005 03:37
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Corona RT142	Wed, 21 September 2005 03:41
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	unforgiven	Wed, 21 September 2005 03:45
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Les	Wed, 21 September 2005 03:51
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Corona RT142	Wed, 21 September 2005 03:52
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Evan	Wed, 21 September 2005 04:48
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	river	Wed, 21 September 2005 04:50
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	ndgcpr	Wed, 21 September 2005 09:47
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	smt_007	Wed, 21 September 2005 10:02
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	mk27m	Thu, 22 September 2005 06:33
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Les	Thu, 22 September 2005 07:21
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Squid	Thu, 22 September 2005 14:41
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Paranoid Android	Thu, 22 September 2005 14:46
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	EldarO	Thu, 22 September 2005 15:15
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	shezza	Thu, 22 September 2005 15:47
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	b1gb3n	Thu, 22 September 2005 19:18
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	shezza	Fri, 23 September 2005 04:11
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Sigmeister	Fri, 23 September 2005 07:15
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	shezza	Fri, 23 September 2005 07:25
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	thu187	Fri, 23 September 2005 22:33
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	shezza	Sat, 24 September 2005 09:17
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	paulst162	Sat, 24 September 2005 10:41
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	b1gb3n	Fri, 23 September 2005 18:19
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	thu187	Fri, 23 September 2005 22:30
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Blown86	Fri, 23 September 2005 22:58
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Rolla Boy	Sat, 24 September 2005 05:41
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Les	Mon, 26 September 2005 03:29
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Evan	Fri, 23 September 2005 23:16
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	white86	Sat, 24 September 2005 07:06
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	b1gb3n	Sun, 25 September 2005 01:43
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	shezza	Sun, 25 September 2005 02:20
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	b1gb3n	Sun, 25 September 2005 09:46
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	shezza	Sun, 25 September 2005 09:56
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Sigmeister	Mon, 26 September 2005 04:45
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	rthy	Mon, 26 September 2005 06:13
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Sigmeister	Mon, 26 September 2005 07:14
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	rthy	Mon, 26 September 2005 11:08
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	shezza	Mon, 26 September 2005 08:22
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Yian	Mon, 26 September 2005 12:49
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	oldcorollas	Mon, 26 September 2005 12:55
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	b1gb3n	Mon, 26 September 2005 19:18
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	oldcorollas	Mon, 26 September 2005 13:04
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Smokey228	Tue, 27 September 2005 05:09
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	smt_007	Tue, 27 September 2005 05:12
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Smokey228	Tue, 27 September 2005 12:31
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	CrUZsida	Fri, 30 September 2005 04:22
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Corona RT142	Fri, 30 September 2005 04:29
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	CrUZsida	Fri, 30 September 2005 04:35
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	Corona RT142	Fri, 30 September 2005 04:39
	Re: Did not STOP at STOP sign !	CrUZsida	Fri, 30 September 2005 04:41

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