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Re: Norton vs McAfee anti virus

Wed, 21 September 2005 16:55

Blown86 wrote on Wed, 21 September 2005 18:26

Thankyou for the enlightenment.

I don't run unlicensed antivirus software. The vast majority of my internet usage is actually using my corporate laptops running full licenses for everything.

My bank was hacked after a Trojan was found by NAV immediately after I logged off my bank account, NAV found the trojan, let it access my computer and was not able to do anything to fight it.
Nothing to do with phishing or any other scams.
The bank fraud section identified the hack as being a Trojan and my account was actually hacked after the bank's security system had identified an attack, closed my account and the hacker still broke through!

That was the last time I used NAV or any firewall, security by Symantec.

Many, many times we have run AVG on PCs installed with Norton or Macafee. Every time AVG has identified viruses not found by the other software.
Thanks for the definition of nuked! What I meant was completely fucked by some virus or whatever when using NAV and Macafee, many times. All your theory sounds interesting, but in the real world people like me know what works or doesn't.

Uneducated comment?? Just talking from real world experience, working internationally with high end data processing and data acquisition for many years.

You sound like an advertisement for NAV and Macafee, who pays you?? Rolling Eyes

i stand corrected. i apologise for my assumption based on that it was a dodgy copy. you can see how i came to that conclusion however.

regardless of what av you were using. antivirus will not stop a hacker. thats not what its designed to do. for someone desperate enough to use a blended trojan to pilfer your details, one attack will eventually get through the so called wall of security. AVG might be good at the desktop end for what it is, but its not a Firewall, neither is Symantec AV or McAfee VScan Ent 8.0i for that matter. you cant expect a virus defense program to totally secure your system.. someone with real world experience should know that security isnt just revolvant around an antivirus.

the usual scenario for most corporates these days anyway is laptops that can dial up / hook in via ethernet/gprs pcmcia.. but dont allow traffic through unless the corporate gateway connection is established through VPN. Not only from a security perspective is this important, but it also adheres to QA Standards regarding acceptable Internet use policies enforced by a company (Being tracked and logged). A decent setup would include a VPN connection tunnel past the corporate firewall into an authenticated server (whether it be Active Directory or hardware based like Checkpoint), but still then traffic should be generated past Proxy style gateways or Gateway Devices like the Symantec SGS Series, McAfee's SCM 3x00 Series, Barracuda, Cisco, Blah blah the list goes on.. Multi Tiered Protection, Its how things are done these days..

(by the way i personally have a large dislike for Symantec and its not simply because of their products, but also their internal administration and the politics involved internally within the company.. SAVCE v10 has been a flop and many corporates are moving to Trend/McAfee because of it)

regarding real world people, just to give you an indication, i manage 1000-15000 desktop enterprise clients and their software licensing contracts..

oh and Microsoft pays me quite well for it..

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