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Turbo_Tim Regular Location: Townsville Registered: February 2005	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar Sat, 24 September 2005 11:41 I have a little experience with gti-rs considering my brother has one. His has front mount, cat back 3" exhaust and about 12psi. It runs 13.1 with exhaust, 12.8 by the previous owner with the exhaust dropped at the cat. Also ran a very low 13 with exhaust dropped, stock boost. To drive it I dont notice the understeer too much, but then again my daily is fwd. I like the driving position, but I wouldnt call it overly sporty, but its definately usable. Steering feels pretty good and direct. 5 seats can be a huge benefit if you require it occasionally though. We drove townsville --> Brisbane, which was a noisey experience to say the least! He races at the track that I do as well, its a short tight track, his car is about 0.6 seconds a lap quicker than my track only t18, which isnt too great, but thats on his one attempt. t18 is stock 3tc with sidedrafts, extractors and side pipe, cut springs, camber, stripped interior, all running on 195 6 year old street tires. Really it will probably about 1-1.5 seconds a lap quicker once he learns to drive. Not huge really considering. We did the engine out clutch change on the driveway, took 1 1/2 days out, 1 1/2 in. Since then we have had a lot of experience (more on this soon). His gearbox has held up with a fair bit of drags and some circuit. 2nd seems to be the problem (as mentioned shortly ). Im summary I would say gtir is a very fast version of a cheap car. Its great for flogging around town, a bit of strip work and a bit of circuit work, as long as you are gentle. 12's are no worry what so ever on the stock turbo! Whoever mentioned they have 3 lsds is not correct, front is apparently open except for the dakar spec ones. Now about gearboxes My house mate has a SSS attessa import sr20det awd bluebird. They run an s13 type sr20det and awd. The gearbox is pretty much identical to the gti-r except for a front viscous lsd. The car is pretty stock, front mount, 3" and a load of boost. He gave it a stab in 2nd gear, resulted in the stripping of a few teeth from second. He did drive hard so it didnt suprise him, we reckon the extra weight of the bluebird was enough to put the box over the edge. So out came the engine and gearbox on the driveway again. 5 months later a new straight cut gearbox turns up. Back it in goes. A bit over a thousand km run it, takes it to the drags and doesnt even make it to the 60 foot line before the end of the case pops off and out comes some lovely blue shockproof oil. Turns out some how one of the gears fused its self to the shaft and resulted in a snapped output shaft, which sheared and pushed the end of the box off. Out comes engine and box again, it was all covered under warantee. Another 2 months or so box 2 turns up. This was in the car and running mid last week, so hopefully it holds up. I wont mention the gearset manufacturer, but to there credit they admitted the error and modified the design and cover it all on warantee. The second gearset was delivered quicker than the first also. So on that note, gti-rs can be risky, but they are a good fun fast car if you treat them well. They can be made to handle, stock and anything else you want to do, just depends on how much you want to pay and what you want it for. I would personally pick an mr2 turbo, a. because my brother has one, b. Because I want more of all rounder, hopefully with some comfort and space is not of concern at this point in my life. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	BOCKA	Sat, 17 September 2005 11:57
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	db__	Sat, 17 September 2005 12:21
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	Ko Ko	Sat, 17 September 2005 13:02
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	Dorio86	Sat, 17 September 2005 13:19
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	Shraka	Sat, 17 September 2005 13:22
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	SW20R	Sat, 17 September 2005 14:07
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	buck naked	Sat, 17 September 2005 16:18
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	draven	Sat, 17 September 2005 23:31
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	4agte	Sun, 18 September 2005 00:22
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	SW20R	Sun, 18 September 2005 00:56
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	MR. 2	Mon, 19 September 2005 04:16
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	Chris Davey	Mon, 19 September 2005 05:06
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	Clown	Mon, 19 September 2005 05:32
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	KYOTO	Mon, 19 September 2005 06:18
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	General_Bupkiss	Mon, 19 September 2005 07:18
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	BOCKA	Tue, 20 September 2005 07:17
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	levos1	Thu, 22 September 2005 04:11
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	Les	Thu, 22 September 2005 06:32
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	-Totenkopf-	Fri, 23 September 2005 14:46
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	SW20R	Fri, 23 September 2005 17:09
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	carsanactra	Sat, 24 September 2005 09:39
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	Turbo_Tim	Sat, 24 September 2005 11:41
	Re: sw20 turbo VS nissan gti-r pulsar	BOCKA	Sun, 25 September 2005 09:07

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