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Re: DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE Thu, 13 February 2003 03:07 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Nark wrote on Thu, 13 February 2003 13:27

That's why I only drive like that when I'm alone and there are no other cars on the road. If an accident happens, at least I won't take anyone with me.

That's very altruistic, and if you take yourself out and die, then the cost to society is minimal. Unfortunately, if you end up in a permanent vegetative state secondary to a closed head injury, the cost to society is significant, let alone the cost to family.


Nark wrote on Thu, 13 February 2003 13:27

That just comes down to how you view those advanced driving courses.
If they were viewed as educational and related to safety, then I don't think that it'll be a problem.
Americans are a "special" bunch.... If you do an advanced driving course and see it as improving your driving skills for driving fast, then of course you're gonna be more dangerous, but you were dangerous to start off with.
Being a redneck doesn't help either... Wink

Whilst I'm prepared to accept there are societal differences between Americans and Australians, these 2 cultures are ultimately remarkably similar. I agree that larger randomised controlled trials (RCT) need to be performed to get a better answer, but at present, all relevant data points to an increased accident rate. Whilst the road toll is a major issue, I don't think a responsible government should be throwing good money at something that may actually have a detrimental effect. A RCT should be conducted before anything like this were introduced as compulsory.


Nark wrote on Thu, 13 February 2003 13:27

That's a bit harsh isn't it? What if you're taking medication that has alcohol content?
What if you just sniffed someone's perfume?
Sorry dude, but that's extreme enough to be considered Nazi-like.
I mean that in the nicest possible way of course. Razz


Nope, not at all. Sweden pursues such a policy of alcohol non tolerance, and they're a friendly democratic country. It requires a paradigm shift in Australian culture such that alcohol and driving are considered mutually exclusive.
Apart from cough elixirs, I'm not aware of any medicines that contain alcohol. Sniffing perfume would result in a negligible increase in BAC.

Of course this remains a friendly discourse, just an exchange of opinions. Very Happy
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