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Re: DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE

Thu, 13 February 2003 03:59

gianttomato wrote on Thu, 13 February 2003 14:07

That's very altruistic, and if you take yourself out and die, then the cost to society is minimal. Unfortunately, if you end up in a permanent vegetative state secondary to a closed head injury, the cost to society is significant, let alone the cost to family.

hehe True, but I wouldn't push that hard, not on public roads at least. I could handle crashing my car, but I wouldn't do anything to risk personal injury. The family would be devastated.

gianttomato wrote on Thu, 13 February 2003 14:07

Whilst I'm prepared to accept there are societal differences between Americans and Australians, these 2 cultures are ultimately remarkably similar. I agree that larger randomised controlled trials (RCT) need to be performed to get a better answer, but at present, all relevant data points to an increased accident rate. Whilst the road toll is a major issue, I don't think a responsible government should be throwing good money at something that may actually have a detrimental effect. A RCT should be conducted before anything like this were introduced as compulsory.

When I did an advanced driving course, it was an eye opener for most of the people. And put the hoons in their place.
My personal feelings were that it was a real good education for the people there, and I don't think it would've made anyone a more dangerous driver. Everyone there lost control of their cars (except me of course... hehe).

gianttomato wrote on Thu, 13 February 2003 14:07

Nope, not at all. Sweden pursues such a policy of alcohol non tolerance, and they're a friendly democratic country. It requires a paradigm shift in Australian culture such that alcohol and driving are considered mutually exclusive.
Apart from cough elixirs, I'm not aware of any medicines that contain alcohol. Sniffing perfume would result in a negligible increase in BAC.

Interesting... I suppose that Sweden is near Germany.... hehe
And the perfume thing was shitstirring....... But imagine if you were stuck in a car with 4 girls each with purfume on.... And you take a deep breath before an RBT!! Very Happy

The thing is that the BAC isn't that good an indicator of someone's motor ability. I can drink half a bottle of scotch and not feel it, but gimme two beers and I'm gone...

I think most Australians these days know that it's wrong to drink and drive. I just think that they should be focussing on other things rather than the drink drive message.

gianttomato wrote on Thu, 13 February 2003 14:07

Of course this remains a friendly discourse, just an exchange of opinions. Very Happy

I think we need to get into those big sumo suits and settle this once and for all! Laughing

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