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Re: Radiators: alloy vs Brass
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Thu, 06 October 2005 12:25
 
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What really hurts to think about is that brass is an alloy 
Electric fans are never a match for a decent engine driven job, simply because of the power required to drive them - say you have a 1KW fan, at 14 volts this will require over 71 amps to run it - and that's completely forgetting any losses along the way. Still, the other side of it is that fans should only be required to cool the engine when the car is standing still (traffic etc.), and THEORETICALLY generating a minimal amount of waste heat. Welcome to the dark side of Ford V8's (and sixes... and Chevs.. and Holdens... and...) - poor water circulation, poor water pumps, and very low thermal efficiency, especially at idle, is why you'll see plenty of examples with 5 and 6 core mattress sized rads boiling away constantly. This problem is made even worse if you try and do a burnout - you only have the thermal mass of the cooling system to protect you here (an electric fan is always going to be useless) - this is why cars that are built for burnout comps plumb in a massive water header tank in line with the radiator, in the hope that there's enough thermal mass there to absorb the heat made in a minute or two of tyre frying, without boiling.
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V8_MA61 | Thu, 06 October 2005 11:32 |
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Norbie | Thu, 06 October 2005 11:50 |
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BigWorm | Thu, 06 October 2005 12:00 |
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V8_MA61 | Thu, 06 October 2005 12:02 |
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V8_MA61 | Thu, 06 October 2005 12:05 |
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Cool1 | Thu, 06 October 2005 12:13 |
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people100 | Sun, 09 October 2005 00:09 |
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V8_MA61 | Sun, 09 October 2005 03:45 |
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Norbie | Sun, 09 October 2005 10:18 |
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mrshin | Thu, 06 October 2005 12:25 |
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V8_MA61 | Thu, 06 October 2005 12:40 |
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cannonball | Thu, 06 October 2005 12:59 |
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Norbie | Thu, 06 October 2005 13:25 |
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cannonball | Thu, 06 October 2005 13:34 |
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Cool1 | Thu, 06 October 2005 21:26 |
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Stefan | Thu, 06 October 2005 21:54 |
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cannonball | Thu, 06 October 2005 22:32 |
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Cool1 | Thu, 06 October 2005 22:37 |
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Norbie | Thu, 06 October 2005 23:18 |
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Toobs | Thu, 06 October 2005 23:33 |
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wilbo666 | Fri, 07 October 2005 00:53 |
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oldcorollas | Fri, 07 October 2005 16:28 |
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kingmick | Fri, 07 October 2005 20:20 |
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oldcorollas | Sat, 08 October 2005 13:47 |
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bahnugget | Fri, 07 October 2005 04:40 |
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Cool1 | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:05 |
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bahnugget | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:07 |
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Cool1 | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:18 |
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Skip | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:25 |
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Skip | Fri, 07 October 2005 04:55 |
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Skip | Fri, 07 October 2005 04:59 |
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bahnugget | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:21 |
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Cool1 | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:29 |
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Norbie | Fri, 07 October 2005 07:04 |
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Cool1 | Fri, 07 October 2005 07:10 |
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V8_MA61 | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:27 |
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CrUZsida | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:42 |
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V8_MA61 | Fri, 07 October 2005 09:42 |
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CrUZsida | Fri, 07 October 2005 11:00 |
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V8_MA61 | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:30 |
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Skip | Fri, 07 October 2005 06:33 |
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draven | Fri, 07 October 2005 07:09 |
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drift86levin | Fri, 07 October 2005 07:39 |
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V8_MA61 | Fri, 07 October 2005 09:48 |
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Skip | Fri, 07 October 2005 10:26 |
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CrUZsida | Fri, 07 October 2005 10:58 |
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Norbie | Fri, 07 October 2005 08:22 |
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kingmick | Fri, 07 October 2005 09:19 |
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kingmick | Fri, 07 October 2005 09:49 |
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V8_MA61 | Fri, 07 October 2005 11:08 |
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cressida_1jz | Sat, 08 October 2005 09:08 |
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drift86levin | Sat, 08 October 2005 22:37 |
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kingmick | Sat, 08 October 2005 22:52 |
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kingmick | Sat, 08 October 2005 23:10 |
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kingmick | Sun, 09 October 2005 00:16 |
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kingmick | Sun, 09 October 2005 03:51 |
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wilbo666 | Sun, 09 October 2005 03:59 |
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oldcorollas | Sun, 09 October 2005 10:35 |
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mrshin | Sun, 09 October 2005 10:45 |
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thechuckster | Sun, 09 October 2005 11:23 |
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clubagreenie | Sun, 09 October 2005 12:50 |
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thechuckster | Sun, 09 October 2005 13:10 |
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kingmick | Sun, 09 October 2005 22:41 |
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V8_MA61 | Mon, 10 October 2005 06:19 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 10 October 2005 06:24 |
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V8_MA61 | Mon, 10 October 2005 06:26 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 10 October 2005 06:28 |
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Skip | Mon, 10 October 2005 06:32 |
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kingmick | Tue, 11 October 2005 00:56 |
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V8_MA61 | Mon, 10 October 2005 10:05 |
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V8_MA61 | Mon, 10 October 2005 10:11 |
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thechuckster | Mon, 10 October 2005 11:24 |
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V8_MA61 | Mon, 10 October 2005 11:37 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 10 October 2005 11:53 |
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Cool1 | Mon, 10 October 2005 22:43 |
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ed_ma61 | Tue, 11 October 2005 01:10 |
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V8_MA61 | Tue, 11 October 2005 06:09 |
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September_Squall | Tue, 11 October 2005 07:45 |
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Norbie | Tue, 11 October 2005 12:11 |
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Cool1 | Tue, 11 October 2005 12:41 |
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September_Squall | Tue, 11 October 2005 16:54 |
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V8_MA61 | Wed, 12 October 2005 05:55 |
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September_Squall | Thu, 13 October 2005 00:43 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 13 October 2005 02:51 |
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ed_ma61 | Thu, 13 October 2005 03:37 |
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V8_MA61 | Thu, 13 October 2005 05:56 |
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September_Squall | Thu, 13 October 2005 06:03 |
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ed_ma61 | Thu, 13 October 2005 07:34 |
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Gwaijaitat | Thu, 13 October 2005 08:38 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 13 October 2005 09:05 |
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Gwaijaitat | Thu, 13 October 2005 09:18 |
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V8_MA61 | Thu, 13 October 2005 05:55 |
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V8_MA61 | Thu, 13 October 2005 06:41 |
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cressida_1jz | Thu, 13 October 2005 12:11 |
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Gwaijaitat | Thu, 13 October 2005 13:56 |
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Gwaijaitat | Tue, 25 October 2005 16:48 |
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V8_MA61 | Fri, 14 October 2005 07:07 |
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oldcorollas | Fri, 14 October 2005 07:41 |
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Skip | Wed, 19 October 2005 00:00 |
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V8_MA61 | Wed, 19 October 2005 09:29 |
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ed_ma61 | Wed, 19 October 2005 09:47 |
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