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Re: E10 fuel (and toyota's that can and cannot handle it) Mon, 24 October 2005 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
dingaling wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 14:04

dingaling wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 16:07

oldcorollas wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 17:33

ALL wear surfaces in an engine have an oil film, so the metal never comes into contact.. perhaps with the exception of piston rings when they are wearing in.. but in normal operation, there should be no metal to metal contact...


I dunno There is a degree of internal friction in engines, What about the valves? That would be a metal on metal wear surface would it not? ie the back of the valves as the spring pulls them back agaisnt the head. (pretty minimal wear i suppose)


Did i just sneak one past old corolla's the walking encyclopedia, or really have a genuine argument that can't be corrected :_)


oh sorry, i was working Razz

there is friction from the oil film of course.
valves are a metal on metal surface, however they are not sliding, the valve is gently(ish) let down onto the seat, and so i can't imagine they generate any friction losses as such, or result in any wear from friction.

i think the closest thing to metla on metal wear is going to be the piston rings at startup, and timing chains Wink

basically, metal on metal wear will not last long.. likely to result in galling = bad Sad
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