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Re: Suggestions for a car for 20 yr old girl. Mon, 24 October 2005 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 19:35

Shraka wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 17:20

SEXY 16 wrote on Mon, 24 October 2005 17:14

hyundai excel is a great wee car

DIE! These things suck. The breaks are captain lockupy, and the engine is a hunk of crap. Also with a heavy load it's likely to spin under some fairly average driving (happened to me). Also likes to aquaplain (also happened to me). The Lancer was FAR superior, and had more space. Although I wouldn't advise a lancer. Perhaps a Camry or Corolla? Honda Civic?

My suggestion would be for a NSX Type R, but that's just me. Cool

you have no idea what you are talking about shraka
i sell about 3 to 4 of these little gems a week
most with dealer warranty to kids
i never see them again they never break and are cheap as and our security company has 10 of them all with 250k plus

I don't know what I'm talking about?
I drove a 1990 model manual with a carby that had 200k on the clock for about two years so I speak from experience.
- The breaks lock up easily, especialy on the back.
- In an emergency with about 300kg of people in the car it handles like total shit.
- With old tyres the thing isn't so happy in the wet.

Now compared to the Lancer (1992 model, 1.5 carby manual no PS with 170,000 on the clock):
- The Excel was VERY uncomfortable. The Lancer was much better.
- The Lancers torque delivery was far superior, even though it was a heavier car. This made it much easier to drive.
- General steering dynamics where better and much safer in the Lancer especialy in the wet.
- The breaks where better (although once hot, they suffered from fade pretty badly)
- The Lancer was bigger with more space.
- The Lancer had air con. Razz (yes I know this has nothing to do with it)
- The Lancer got slightly better economy under normal use (and way better economy under heavy use - untill the valve stem seals went)
- One thing going for the Excel was the engine was in better condition. But considering that my mother drove the excel up to about 190K kms (slowly and carefully, she used to treat the car pretty well and had done engine overhauls on her old car so knew her way around 'em) and I didn't keep the Lancer properly serviced, the Lancer did remarkably well. Razz

That was a comparison of a 1990 base model manual Excel with a carby and a 1992 CB Lancer GL manual with a carby and air con (both with no PS). Different models may be different, I'm not sure. But the breaks on the two cars (atleast) seem to be similar to these models right up till later in the 90s.

How about you post up your experiences with driving an Excel daily and your observations about their characteristics in emergency situations and general comfort levels huh? Rather than just saying "oh we sell them so they must be good!"

If this girl wants a comfortable car (And she probably will soon even if she sais she doesn't mind now) then I'd avoid the excel. If she wants something that is easy to drive with some passengers i'd avoid the AE82 w/ 4A-C in auto as they don't have much pulling power (ex's Corolla, not so great). I also found the AE82 a little uncomfortable as a driver and passenger.

So really the question is, what does she want? Comfort? Ease of drive? Power? Looks? Reliability? Space?

Appart from reliability the CC or CD Lancer is pretty good on most of those fronts. I managed to pop 2 clutches on my CB but that'll be 'cuz of the way I drive. The AE92 is also good, but dunno about comfort (never been in one).
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