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Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86 Tue, 01 November 2005 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
AE86slut wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 10:26

oldcorollas wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 12:46

get springs that are too hard and reduce grip, then wind up shocks to match said stupidly hard springs (you know.. like 8-12kg for a spoontah)


Did you know that Bob Holden's AE86 touring car team had a selection of springs that were used for different circuits, basically starting at 8kg/mm and going up to 12kg/mm?

The car also held lap records for quite a number of years with this setup at certain tracks.

I guess they must have had it all wrong too eh Stuart? Razz


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no no.. just different setup for actual racing Wink

springs should (typically) softest allowable to stop the body of car contacting the road, although with heavy sedans it is always a compromise.... anyway, you can read all about it somehwere else..

all i can say is that there is a very very big difference between a circuit car, with high cornering forces (over 1G), high speeds (say, 200-300), and high braking forces.....

compared to a dorifto car which will not have high cornering forces (since you are counter steering and the rear whels are sliding Rolling Eyes ), ie not high G, and not high speeds....

you are simply trying to compare "sports" with very different requirements...

in fact.. a good analogy is skiing Razz
if you are snowplowing down a green run at perisher, you will not ned the same skis (length, stiffness, strength) that you would if you were doing a superG slalom run.... sure you can use the superG skis for snowplowing.... they will work.... but it doesn't mean they are the best skis for the job..

Edit: now i thin abotu it.. apart from length, super G skis will be fine for snowplowing, cos they are stiff and stable and will slide easily.. but a decent set of softer skis with a bigger sidecut will help you turn much easier.... oh wait.. dorifto is not about turning.... it's about not turning Razz

now... if you were to take an AE86 with the same suspension setup as the touring cars... and DRIFT IT around the same tracks.... which will have the better lap time? and corespondingly, which will have higher cornering forces and require stiffer springs???

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Team Dorifto.. Fuck Yeah Razz

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