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Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86

Tue, 01 November 2005 05:05

cannonball wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 15:52

If we're talking about top level professionals here, i think you will actually find that top level D1 drivers will actually enter some corners at the same if not higher speed than a circuit car. therefore the same if not greater g forces will apply, the only difference is the cars attitude, and therefore the transmission of those G's through the car.

they must have "special cars" then...

circuit racer is on the limit of traction. when they break traction, they go off the track.
if a dorifto car entered a corner at the same speed as a circuit car, but had it's wheels sliding, it would go off the track. if a V8 touring car locks up it's wheels entering a corner, it spears off the track....
are you trying to say that a dorifto car, using handbrake or 2 way LSD to get compression lockup, will brake faster than a circuit car on the limit of traction on all 4 wheels????

are you saying an F1 car (or ANY racing car.. or any CAR for that matter) will go faster around a corner by drifting as opposed to keeping within th etraction lmits of the tyres??

a car with SLIDING tyres CANNOT have the same forces generated as a tyre that is only slipping at it's ideal slip angle (what is it? 5-10deg depending on tyre compound and construction?)

you CANNOT say that a car sliding sideways is generating the SAME level of G forces as a car that is on the limit of adhesion.

thats like saying a top fuel dragster will go faster when it is spinning the tyres (more than the ideal slip ablge Wink

)... in real life when that happens.. the tyres go up in smoke and the car stops going forward as quickly...

I challenge you to prove that a highly developed dorifto car (D1 whatever) will generate the same G forces during a corner as a highly developed sedan circuit car.

this assertion that drift cars have more grip when sliding than a circuit car, and are faster than an equivalent circuit car (lets make it broad and say engine power, tyre size and weight), is complete and utter fantasy.

have you ever watched a circuit race where someone goes a bit wide and has to countersteer (drift) to keep iot on the track... and then the car behind passes easily on the inside??

sure drift is fun, and sure it is considered a "motorsport" by some, but to say that the forces generated are greater, and the lap times are lower.... Rolling Eyes

you say it's faster? prove it. you say that the forces generated are unearthly (ie higher than equiv circuit car)? prove it. Cool

heh heh, drifting is is somthing like a cross between a bogan burnout comp and synchronised swimming Wink

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