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Dorio86 Regular Location: Bankstown Registered: August 2005	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86 Mon, 07 November 2005 05:09 This is what moto had to say about them: Hey guys, I've been looking into purchasing a set of traction brackets for my AE86. Got a couple of questions though. One is what is up with the lift throttle problems while using an LSD with traction brackets? Is it only 2 way or are 1.5's affected as well? And the next thing is what happens with the upper arms? I would think you would need to relocate their mounting points as well to correct the roll center. I've recently been reading some books from Carroll smith so it’s gotten me thinking. [: P] One last thing. I've also been looking into the purchase of an OS super lock 1.5. Would you recommend a different diff for road racing/drift? I have come to realize that I prefer the 1.5 for smoother racing lines. I have used traction brackets in the past. I guess the design concept was to give added traction on acceleration force. What I did find though was that it started to create dynamic alignment changes that didn’t help stabilize the car in cornering and also (probably) added some binding effect as suspension arms no longer moved in parallel. I took it out as it never added performance really but changed the character of the car in the corners too much. More precisely, it gave slightly less manageable understeer upon exits (though ideally your car should slightly push under throttle for basic neutral handling, the effect was more balanced without them). I don’t really know what you mean by lift throttle problems but in general both 1.5 and 2 way LSD designs are supposed to give locking force in both on and off throttle conditions where engine is loading the driveline. 1.5 is really a 2 way but designed with less deceleration locking force than acceleration. To most people, this is only a matter of preference. Generally, 1 way LSD gives better turn-in as rear wheels do not act against the forces of the car trying to steer, and is especially recommended for novice drivers who cannot manage to control the weight shifting of the car between fore and aft motions (in order to break front or rear loose as intended. The 2 way may be preferred for advanced drivers who seek a more stable character in delicate drifts at very high angles and speeds even at a sacrifice of some initial corner entry ease. 1.5 way is just designed to give something in between the two designs and is preferred by a lot of drifters as well as track cars. I like the feel of a 2 way as it makes a challenge for the driver throwing the car around (especially in AE86…it makes the car so Spartan and solid in feel, kicking the driver’s *****to do things better), but 1.5 is always a great compromise and is definitely recommended for a multi-purpose car. Taken from http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59153 &whichpage=8&ARCHIVE= [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Settings for traction brackets AE86	Evan	Sat, 29 October 2005 00:29
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Sat, 29 October 2005 05:00
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	ae86drift	Sat, 29 October 2005 06:31
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Sat, 29 October 2005 08:52
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Evan	Sat, 29 October 2005 09:41
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Sat, 29 October 2005 10:00
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	ae86drift	Sat, 29 October 2005 14:42
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Sun, 30 October 2005 01:46
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	ae86drift	Sun, 30 October 2005 01:51
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Sun, 30 October 2005 02:07
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	ehendrikd	Sun, 30 October 2005 02:11
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	AE86slut	Mon, 31 October 2005 23:26
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Tue, 01 November 2005 03:54
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	AE86slut	Tue, 01 November 2005 04:22
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Evan	Sat, 29 October 2005 09:31
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Mon, 31 October 2005 02:16
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Mon, 31 October 2005 02:28
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Mon, 31 October 2005 08:23
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Mon, 31 October 2005 09:58
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	kingmick	Mon, 31 October 2005 09:35
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Bill Sherwood	Mon, 31 October 2005 13:06
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Blown86	Mon, 31 October 2005 09:46
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	bluehachi	Mon, 31 October 2005 12:07
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Mon, 31 October 2005 21:53
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Tue, 01 November 2005 01:31
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Evan	Tue, 01 November 2005 03:27
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Tue, 01 November 2005 04:03
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	cannonball	Tue, 01 November 2005 04:52
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Tue, 01 November 2005 05:05
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	AE86slut	Tue, 01 November 2005 05:20
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Tue, 01 November 2005 07:50
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Corona RT142	Wed, 02 November 2005 01:32
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	kingmick	Tue, 01 November 2005 06:26
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	cannonball	Tue, 01 November 2005 05:21
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Tue, 01 November 2005 05:51
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Evan	Tue, 01 November 2005 05:57
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Tue, 01 November 2005 08:23
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Evan	Wed, 02 November 2005 03:42
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	cannonball	Tue, 01 November 2005 05:58
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Tue, 01 November 2005 06:11
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Tue, 01 November 2005 10:39
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	bluehachi	Tue, 01 November 2005 11:59
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	oldcorollas	Tue, 01 November 2005 14:49
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	fOOZ86	Wed, 02 November 2005 02:01
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Corona RT142	Wed, 02 November 2005 02:09
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	pro_k	Wed, 02 November 2005 03:36
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Evan	Wed, 02 November 2005 03:46
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	170bhp	Wed, 02 November 2005 04:40
	Re: Settings for traction brackets AE86	Dorio86	Mon, 07 November 2005 05:09

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