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davedave
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Re: 3SGTE timing issue

Mon, 21 November 2005 22:50

My apologies, I'm just going to regurgitate an email I just sent, it's too long to type again.

In short, timing sorted, still have a problem with cut, haven't checked fault codes yet, so really just an update, not seeking advice.

Cheers,
Dave

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Well I had another crack at the title last night (I think my body is going to give up on me soon) and at about 1am I fired her up again. (I'm calling it a 'her' now for the way it's been dicking everyone around for so long)

Firstly I lined it up to TDC, pulled #1 sparky to check and put a screw driver in. Clunk, only stuck it in about a centimetre before it hit piston, used a torch and yep, there's the piston.
I pulled the dizzy to make sure it was in the right way. Nope, upside down. So I turn it around and put it back in. Little did I realise that there was only one way it would go in, even though it looked perfectly happy to go in two ways. So putting it back in, it wouldn't go all the way back in by itself. The manual says to lightly tighten, so I take that as how it pulls it the rest of the way in. Tighten, tighten, tighten - SNAP. Whoops, pull it back out again. Check the dizzy, definitely not happy Jan, doesn't even turn anymore without force. Luckily I have a spare (doesn't everybody?), just hope it works through all this dust and shit it's collected. I assess the situation and come to figure that the teeth weren't lined up at all. So to line this one up, I pull the cap off and spin the rotor with my fingers to find its happy place. Yep, right back where I started, so it only goes in one way….doh. That must mean the cams are only half way through there cycle.

With not much more to loose, I decided to leave the crank where it is and move the cams around to TDC again. I tell you what, with the amount of room I had to work with, changing the timing belt and setting the tensioner etc was not an easy task. I think the car learnt a whole bunch of new words last night. Anyways, I left all the cover etc off and just connected the alternator belt, afm, etc again and decided to fire it up. Doesn't run well at all, shit. Whoops, left the brake booster line off, I'm a dick. Connected again and she starts and runs fine. Nice one!

Next I properly jumper the TE1 and E1 terminals and check with continuity that they are. Now when I start it I get my check engine light telling me whats on and I can set the timing right with the ecu trying to advance/retard itself.
Timing comes up pretty well, although I couldn't tell whether it is meant to be 10deg btdc when at idle, or 10deg btdc when at 1100 rpm. So I set it between the two Smiley =

Not sure whether the timing belt was off one tooth before and doing it the second time just happened to fix it, or
Changing to the other stroke of the piston helped anything (really don't think it could), or
Finally jumpering the ecu meant I could read it properly, or
It's just a pig and decided to work now.

Anyways, took it out for a wrap. Before you get too excited, it's still got the same problem where it's killing the engine on boost. And I was too knackered by that time to start checking fault codes.

But.... before it did start playing up, I got a few good hits out of it. One run through to decent boost in third, where I had gotten to a ridiculous speed in a ridiculously short amount of time, it's like nothing I've been in before. Albeit, I haven't been in many quick cars, actually, thinking about it now, it was very comparable to the frog.

Anyways, going to cancel the test again today, just not going to make it. Even if I did get the issue sorted tonight, I still need to make up a heat shield before I can put the lid on.

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