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Re: OFFICIAL NEW FORUMS DISCUSSION THREAD - drop kicks NOT welcome

Wed, 23 November 2005 15:55

wagonist wrote on Wed, 23 November 2005 22:55

I'm a recent board member & I've been a member now for 4 years.
I wasn't around in the early days, but from discussions with the other board members, the aim is to recapture the old technical direction of the forum with these new ones.

Please note that the views expressed below are my own & not necessary that of the entire board (though I will try)

Personally, I find your signature insulting. You complain about "Fascist" board members, yet seeing as you don't come to any club meetings, I wouldn't know you from a bar of soap. What have I done that deserves that kind of an insult?

You complain about no consultation, yet if you'd been able to come to the club meetings, you'd know that the general feeling of the financial members of the club are that these forums were being let down by the amount of wookie type responses, crap threads, etc. I know that you've explained about your circumstances not allowing you to come to meetings, but then don't complain about not being informed when you're not in the loop.
These forums are not self financing. They are mainly funded by the membership fees & proceeds from fund raising events we run, not by donations or sponsorship fees.
These forums are also a branch of the club designed to put us out into the greater community. It is, and I dare say, always will be, a resource for the financial members of the club first, and everyone else second.
Therefore, they are run to the way the financial club members want.

If that means they are sick of the post-whores, wookies, etc who drive away the technical people who actually want to have an input, then so be it, we'll try to do that.

The best way thought of to do this was to request the personal info like we request of financial members. Do you think someone's going to be as much of a jerk on a forum if they knew that there is a possibility of actually being contactable outside the forum, instead of hiding behind an anonymous handle?

With regards to privacy issues, the ONLY circumstance where the information gathered can be given out is when a subpoena is given from a court in legal proceedings, otherwise we are breaking the law.

You also complain about not being contacted before this thread was moved, or whatever else you thought was going to happen to it.
Think of it from our point of view.
You post up something that's contentious. Because we're volunteers who do this on our spare time & therefore need to stumble across this thread before making a comment.
If we wait to discuss the issue with you & in the meantime, some "wannabbe" (for want of a better word) who's just interested in post-whoring & stirring up trouble reads it & posts.
Is that good for the reputation of the club? It is far safer to remove it, move it, etc & then discuss the options, rather than leaving the possibility of the club's reputation being damaged. We never delete stuff, it simply gets moved to a place where non-moderators can no longer view it. Therefore, it can usually be moved back if deemed necessary.

im afraid we will ahve to agree to disagree on several points there for example ive made no direct rference to any single person and if a singluar person is offended then that is an issue they have to address tehmselves and preferably in pm as ive done in the past
ill reiterate, i appreciate the time effort and hardship thats encountered by the admin of this site and the board (only discovered that they are actually seperate branches of this toymods tree) and have done what i can where i can to assist in the growth of these forums and furthermore the club in general

ive commented on the reasosn im not at meetings and also suggested a resolution for this and shown possible benifits for as suchi agree that financial memebers are a cherished group here and should always ahve priority unless thats waivered by them yet consideration for the main feeder area of members also has to be cosnidered
if we turn away people before they have the chance to feel welcome and appreciate the values here thigns will only grow stale and stagnant creating a financial problem in the future
ive always considered rehabilitation/mentoring the superior solution compared to pursecution/punishment particularly cosniderign the standard fo role models available these days comared to what others have expereinced

btw our vs your is something that i feel result sin ppl feeling not welcome here in the first place
most peopel take time to warm to anythign new and with some leaving (regardless of it being conscious or subcoscious) peopel feelign unwelcome is not going to do anyone favcours
we should be doing everythign to encourage everyone thayre welcome if they have respect for themselves and eachother

i do understand and appreciate that deleted thread are stilla vailable to the admin and mods to be ressurected ehnce peopels criues to ressurect certian threads for reference point etc

at the end of the day, a lot of people are passionate about this club and teh forums of this club (regardless of the issue of wether they are or are not part fo the club) and this whole thread is so people are able to voice their thoughts about the new forums and general related issues for the greater improvement for all and i can appreciate and respect that yet feel that respect is not returned by some

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