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Re: OFFICIAL NEW FORUMS DISCUSSION THREAD - drop kicks NOT welcome

Wed, 23 November 2005 16:54

oldcorollas wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 01:25

meh... i've been around since before toymods was born... true it took me a few years to become a financial member but....

...it shouldnt be the size yet hwo you use it ? so to speak Wink

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the toymods forum is a gift to the community at large. if it wasn't for knowledgable ppl passing down their experience, this would be just another assmunching forum about dorifto wannabes and sik bros in VL commondores etc etc...

and i for oen appreciate this gift and is why im debating changes so vigrously as thre are peopel that we really shouldnt loose due to this and this is theperfect oooportunity to encourage return of previous members...

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what pushes old timers away is the proliferation of morons who post anything and everything they think of, reply with crap when they don't actually know it to be true, and generally bring the level of technical content down.

and as the saying goes , one mans trash is anothers treasure

in my time ive learnt things and one day even hope to work with you towards an automotive project that could be financially beneficial to the both of us, yet my knowlege is overshadowed compared to yours, as are others to mine and yours to others

part of the problem i feel is that peopel forget in frustration that not all are as fortunate to have the experience and resources available to them that they do

for example ive virtually no tools, no work space and come froma family with no mechenical background yet auto modification for the improvement of the asthetics of a vehicle is an interest of mine and ill do what i can to improve it

yet when i ask a question after searching for an answer within the forums or googling it and only gettign contrdictory responses and told to google it, rtfm, search it or told how much of a worthless numbskull i am for not professing a masters in every conceivable field ever invented (btw that is not intended as an insult considering youve earnt a doctorate) and even my cat knows that for example a ke20 comes with twodifferent stud patterns it is very demeanign and hurtful and human nature when beigna ttacked is to defend in verbally wise thats to lash out and insult others with the limit of their vocabulary (hence why some are limited to extreme use of profanity)

it also is a problem when the whole cmpter and itnernet side fo thigsn are new to you as they are to some who do have a wealth of expereince in the auto fields to share yet not sure how to and are ridiculed for their mistakes

it all come sback to tolerence and atm i feel that a smile directed towards some is intolerable and id require to air out the flame proof suit for a while...

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this is a TECHNICAL forum. the outhouse was set up to stop the drivel from invading and overrunning the technical sections of the forum, but then more and more ppl just join and ONLY post there...

to start with
we start by socialising before goign in depth shareing our knowlege i feel
we desire to get the pulse of things to begin with and then branch out the more confident and proficent we become...[/quote]

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the non-members should be GRATEFUL that there is somewhere on the net they can ask technical questions and get accurate answers.... if you doubt this, go and ask tech Q's on hot 4's or boost crusin or whatever...

i, as im sure multiples of others will agree with this and do what they can to assis the growth of the club and teh forums

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how many of you were part of the world toyota-mods mailing list? that is the kind of technical content that we should aspire to, and do everything possible to protect.

that was before my tiem in net experiences yet if it was like what icq groups originally was like before it eventuated to yahoo groups thent eh first version of the forums then i agree with you there, it is soemthign to aspire to

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on the wannabe/noob thing...
if a new person asks sensible questions, they will always get sensible answers.. on the new forum... if they post like a fucktard, they get what they deserve, although i would hope on the new forum that their posts are just deleted instead.

covered this above
basically whats noobish to one is brain surgery to others
something to consider on a level intended not to be racial
some of our memebers possibly are from countries or areas that are only just startig to gain an appreciation towards the mechenical age were used to hence its all new to them

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were you a fucktard when you were a noob? or were you keen to learn and asked sensibe questions.. and listened to the answers?

i was probably both!!!
i desired to learn and am mad keen on toyotas yet was relativelly clueless and to date still paling in comparison to others whos knowlege i and other can only dream of at this period of time
with time that hopefuly will change for us all
yet i respected teh fact that peope took the tiem to answer me and try to assist and that this service was and still is provided by the club and is the reason one day i will do what i can to become a financial member and pay my dues differently to what im doing now and gain the additional benefits that entails me to

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part of the aim of the new forum is to NOT have an atmosphere where 5 smilies constitutes a valid ontribution to the forum

Shocked

did that help?? no.. Rolling Eyes

well maybe smileys should be set off by default as they are soemthign thts abused quite often ?

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so you have a problem with the old forum and the new forum, and you don't want to be a part of it in future... i fail to see what the problem is then Wink

jk... if you are that sore about it.. start your own forum. seriously.... i started the (maybe) first old corolla specific forum many years ago (ok, well only 4 or 5) and that started a community of oldcorolla owners....

nothings perfect and it sure will not improve w/o effort and input and amybe what youve suggested is beyond my skills level at this time ?

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when toymods began it fostered a good toyota MODIFYING community..

exactly, there was a community, yet its hard to increase a community whne not felt welcome or called a noob for asking what factory rims fit a ke20 as a hypothetical example

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just go and start your own forum and decide the kind of ppl you will allow to join.... it's a free world, forums can be set up online for free.... go ahead.

i fail to se why the signup process should be loosened up for ppl who wish to remain anonymous. this is a COMMUNITY. for LIKE MINDED people... if you are not of the same opinion, then you are not part of that like-minded community.. deal with it Wink

and now we have non-toyota owners wanting to have a say in how the toyota forums are run? sheesh Razz

everyone just get over it.. either sign up or don't. if you have a specific issue, email the board. your life will not stop while you are waiting a couple of weeks for them to get back to you. be glad they even get back to you at all. thy are doing you a favour by contributing THEIR OWN TIME so you can post drivel Razz

i fail to see why a life story is required to partake in a forum publically available...
as ive mentioend above and in other posts
the required info is offputtign at best and either scary insulting or confusing at worse
sure i appreciate the fact of trying to eliminate idiots yet by banning them or failign to give them acces they go elsewhere in our greater community and thats not resolvign the problem of social behaviour is it now ?
we are a coommunity within greater comunities and it is our responsibility to raise our juniors to whats acceptable and this is not beign done i feel with the ban and forget approach
im sure there are many a great mind out there shunned by society thats going to waste atm and due to this is left festering only hatred wich theres already too much in this world

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