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Re: OFFICIAL NEW FORUMS DISCUSSION THREAD - drop kicks NOT welcome

Wed, 23 November 2005 17:52

4DaDrift wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 03:15

i know and appreciate the fact the classifieds are not the central focus of the forums and the club yet they are a major part of what makes these forums

hopefully in the new forums, the importance of the classifieds will diminish. hopefully the new "for sale rules" will discourage many people from bothering (ie, no EOI, published prices etc etc)..
running the forums is not just about money and membership. more money doesn't = extra time for the guys to run things. they are volunteers. thats all. there are no staff.

4DaDrift wrote

what pushes old timers away is the proliferation of morons who post anything and everything they think of, reply with crap when they don't actually know it to be true, and generally bring the level of technical content down.

you misunderstand me. i am referring to the people whose mates budgies mechanic told them such and such, and then they spout this as truth when it is laughable bullshit. people shouldn't post answers unless they know it is true.. not just think it is true. toymods trash is still trash.. no-one benefits from poor information.

4DaDrift wrote

to start with
we start by socialising before goign in depth shareing our knowlege i feel
we desire to get the pulse of things to begin with and then branch out the more confident and proficent we become

in other words.. noobs should sit back and not post for awhile and READ THE FORUMS to see how it works... ie lurk... and then post when they get into the flow of things.... same for all good forums..
socialise smocialise, i have not, and probably will not, meet most of the people on my forums, but i happily help where i can to share knowledge with people who want to learn.. as opposed to those that expect to be spoonfed.
those ppl that have PM'd me with good questions in the right manner get long detailed replies and i go out of my way to help ppl... uck knows why.. it must be an affliction of sorts.

4DaDrift wrote

noo yada yada

there will always be noobs, and the difference here is that if someone has a good attitude, they will get all the help they can handle. if they are clueless (and i mean they just blunder in and have no respect for others = taking the time to try and find out for themseles) then they will not be helped. EVERYONE, in real life or teh intahnet, appreciates someone else actually showing some initiative.

recent threads which begin with "i couldn't be fucked searching so blah blah" this is not what anyone wants to encourage. it should be stamped out vigourously.

4DaDrift wrote

exactly, there was a community, yet its hard to increase a community whne not felt welcome or called a noob for asking what factory rims fit a ke20 as a hypothetical example

as a hypothetical example, a search WILL reveal that there was both shitty and normal stud patterns available. and that there was also transverse leaf spring front ends in them too Wink

heck there are totally seperate communities dealing with oldcorolla eccentricities..

4DaDrift wrote

i fail to see why a life story is required to partake in a forum publically available...

you see life story, i see name and contact details... if that is all your life amounts to.. well.... time to get off keyboard Wink

(smiley required..)

4DaDrift wrote

sure i appreciate the fact of trying to eliminate idiots yet by banning them or failign to give them acces they go elsewhere in our greater community and thats not resolvign the problem of social behaviour is it now ?
we are a coommunity within greater comunities and it is our responsibility to raise our juniors to whats acceptable and this is not beign done i feel with the ban and forget approach
im sure there are many a great mind out there shunned by society thats going to waste atm and due to this is left festering only hatred wich theres already too much in this world

this my friend is a completely seperate and different issue. just becaue a fuckwit comes to toymods and is not flamed for being a fuckwit when they post, does not mean that they will become a normal human being. toymods is not here to reform societies ills (unless constitution has changed??)

toymods forum is a bunch of people talking about modifying toyota cars.. not solving the worlds issues (althogh some would have you believe that the bourke engine wil fix everything)

if a moron is banned for being.. a moron and disregarding the rules of engagement for toymods and generally showing disrespect (it's funny when ppl start flaming mods Razz

) then they will naturally end up at hot4s forum... thats the way darwinism works.

sure there are many great minds festering out there, but it was their choice to do a PhD and withdraw from society, not toymods Laughing

how many times a week do you want to answer the same question? how many times a day do you want to have to read SMS speak on the new forums? there are many threads i could easily contribute to but refrain from doing so because of the attitudes displayed by the posters. it is simply not worth my time to help people who cannot and WILL NOT help themselves even slightly.

if you wish to bear this burden on your shoulders, feel free to help all the noobs when they get flamed. you could even start a forum (it's very easy.. an hour or so of reading up and you could easily do it yourself) and then all banned toymods rejects can go there and it will be a happy place, where ppl can l337 it up and talk about 50kg springs and drifting FWD's etc etc

for a forum to retain it's integrity (as in society), standards must be set. we have the priveledge to set our own standards because we do not have a moral obligation to help everyone. this is a community of ENTHUSIASTS.. i hardly think that someone coming to toymods and asking how to change their blinker fluid constitutes enthusiasm Rolling Eyes

perhaps you could also hassle Shannons for only deciding to insure enthusiasts.... and campaign for them to have to insure everyone, regardless if they fit their desired profile or not.

open discussion is a good thing. open slather is not. just because someone can use a computer does not ive them the RIGHT to post on toymods, nor does it convey any RESPONSIBILITY to any other forum user to provide suitable replies.

you have te right to disagree with the requirements of the new forum. that right is the right not to join. the current forum has egraded to the point where knowledgable people could not be bothered, and it's not due to the classifieds, and is not due to the outhouse, nor general car talk. it is overwhelmingly due to the increase in totally crap threads posted in the tech section...

oh my stereo isn't workign.. did you check the fuse... nuh....
a waste of bandwidth...

so before you post in your thread again, stop and think what it is you are really objecting to. and read your sig as others see it... i see it is offensive.

Quote:

Complete censorship
Coming to a thread near you...

NOT HAPPY WITH THE CURRENT BOARD AND THEIR ACTIONS ?
BECOME A MEMBER OF THE CAR CLUB AND VOTE THE FASCIST POLICE STATE HOWARD LOVING MEMBERS OUT !!!!
HAVE YOUR SAY...

complete censorship, fairy nuff, you may not like your shit replies (general you) to be deleted, but it is necessary to stop shit breeding shit.

so you are not hapy with the board. ok.
so you think they are fascist police state howard loving members?
what fucking drugs are you on? how is that possibly relevant? do you actually think the board members are fascists?? or that they favour a police state? or that they vote liberal? your use of capitals and exclamation marks leaves little room for the interpretation that you are "just kidding", or "don't actually feel that strongly about it" even tho you are effectively yelling it in forum speak.

considering that the board is working tirelessly to make this forum less of a shit heap than it has become (when even now it is still many levels above almost all other car forums around), reading your sig makes me want to stand up and say "go and get fucked". if you feel that srongly about it then just fuck right off to one of the many other shit forums around.

they can't possibly be worse than the fascist police state this forum apparently is Rolling Eyes

your posts in this thread seem reasonable, but your signature, that appears after EVERY post you make, belittles you far more than you realise.

i have no idea if this is the opinion of the board members, or of the car club members in general, and they may not be at liberty to say how they feel (PM me board if you feel i am too far out of line), but to read about how people find thee new measures appressive and it restricts their ability to shit all over this forum absolutely sickens me. there are many people that i would personally ban if i had the chance, simply becaue thy are right royal fuckstains, but there are many ppl i would not, i may disagree with them, but they are not fucstains and different opinions are good..

some people should find other forums to play with during their holidays.

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